Re: Starting Glucophage

"Michelle C" <bookbug_35@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:g3bluk$86a$6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"Willy" <wesk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Dc06k.10214$mh5.5140@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Jun 12, 6:46 pm, "Willy" <w...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"John" <jcarne...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Jun 10, 9:16 pm, "Willy" <w...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





> "Susan" <neverm...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> > Willy wrote:
> >> "Michelle C" <bookbug...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

> >> You guys are sounding more and more like you're on the Adkins plan > >> of
> >> eating!!! LOL

> >> My Dr. suggested that I KEEP carbs in my diet including breads > >> etc...
> >> but you guys almost universally are telling me to drop them to > >> minimal
> >> levels. My literature says a male should consume on average 30-45G > >> of
> >> carbs PER MEAL (if desired)... and never more than 75g. Yet I'm > >> hearing
> >> most of you that are trying to stay in the 10-15g range.

> > That's because eating more than 10-15 per meal spikes bg. I eat a > > lot of
> > healthy carbs from veggies, no starch. My bg barely moves up at all
> > after
> > a meal. If I eat any bread or other starch, it shoots up.

> >> If you refer to the American Diabetes Assoc literature they too > >> suggest
> >> a
> >> male have up to 45g of carbs in a meal.

> > That's what happens when all your funding comes from cereal, soda, > > candy
> > and drug manufacturers.

> >> Here's the question. Is 45g of carbs something you feel would be > >> 'ok'
> >> AFTER you get within range, or do most of you find you can never > >> eat
> >> that
> >> quantity of carbs in a given setting?

> > Never, not as a diabetic.

> > Use your meter one hour after meals to find your personal carb
> > tolerance.

> > Susan

> One hour eh? I'll do it, in fact I plan to do a test at 30 minute
> intervals
> up to 3 hours after a meal to see what really is happening with my
> glucose,
> and then do it again with a meal that's heavy in carbs, say 45g's and > see
> the results.

> But of course, I want to wait until I'm within a safe range before I
> venture
> into a heavy carb meal.

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As you bring your BGs down to within normal limits, you may find you
can increase carbs at lunch or dinner. Even after a year since Dx, I
cannot tolerate carbs for breakfast. Dinner, I can usually eat more
carbs, say 35-45 without going over 120 at 1 or 2 hours.

John C.

So based on your gc responses, I would assume that you would never eat
cereal for breakfast??? No big deal, I'm just curious. In my case, eating
breakfast is a "whole new thing" anyway. That was usually limited to a
weekend event for me, and I find it VERY difficult to eat so early,
however... I'm adjusting.

Willy- Hide quoted text -

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That's right, I've found that I cannot eat cereal for breakfast. As a
matter of fact, I don't eat cereal at all anymore.

John C.


I'm anxious to do a LOT of testing to see what triggers me. I think I need to keep detailed records of what I ate etc...

Any advice about how you went about this, (and how many times you think you've done the 60/120 tests over the years) would be appreciated.

Willy
Hi Willy,

Absolutely, you must keep detailed records--either in a notebook or on your computer.

Initially, I tested every meal, everyday at one and two hours--and kept good records--since I didn't know which foods were doing what. I immediately found I had to cut potatoes, rice, cooked fruit, bread, fruit juices. Those are pretty obvious though when you think about it. When I found a breakfast that worked for me, I ate that everyday--half a turkey burger and green beans; no bread--so I didn't have to worry about it for awhile. As a base for other meals, I found that if I ate protein and a green salad, I didn't get much of a rise at all. After that, I worked from that, always having a protein and salad, and added another vegetable to test. This is how I found out cooked carrots cause a spike, but broccoli doesn't. I was methodical. After I got a handle on which foods seemed to be *safe* for me, I tried them in different combinations. For example, peas and corn are both on the carby side. I can eat small servings of both, but found I can't eat them together at the same meal. Now, as long as I'm eating the various meals that are okay for me, I test about once per week just to make sure nothing is changing. Took me several months to get there though, and even now, if I try something new, I am sure to test.
--
Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5






Just sounds like I should take a week and plan LOTS of testing. I'll just be happy when I hit target at this point.

Willy

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