Re: OT - Deaths in five years for Bush & Cheney's war in Iraq

"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6q45v3t8okv6ipe9f4v6jtjeg5oqsrp6bj@xxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:41:52 -0700, "DarkSentinel"
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"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:58:36 -0700, "DarkSentinel"
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rders are a direct result of what the Commander in Chief wishes.

You know, I TRIED responding in a pleasant balanced manner. However since
you want to play the ultra left wing, conspiracy theory zealot card, I
guess
I'll respond in kind...

Exactly WHAT lies are you referring to?

I happen to be watching a program that Travis Smiley was on last
night. He said Bush has told more than one documented lie every day
since before 9/11.

Oh, and just HE says it, that makes it true huh?

No, he just happens to be one of the respected people that are saying
it and have the instances to back up what they say.

Respected by whom, the left wing zealots? That isn't saying much. I had never heard of him until you mentioned him, and I Googled his name. I listen to Bill O'Reilly, and Hanitty and Colmes. Of the current choices, they are the least biased. So saying he is respected doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot if nobody has really heard of him.

I could say that the sky is
green. Does that make it so? The media has become increasingly left wing to
the point that they are losing market share across the board. All that means
is they are loons just as you show yourself to be.

Left wing? Why do you say that? They just happen to see the emperor
has not clothes and aren't afraid to say so.

I am not the only one saying it. All you need do is WATCH the telecasts. Or read the articles.

http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp

http://newsbusters.org/

Pay close attention to the one about your boy Keith Olbermann. He has about as much credibility as you do...LOL

If you say he did, back it up. Of
course they are not true, but DO give it a shot. You seem to see all these
conspiracies, but you can't seem to understand that no one has the power
you
seem to attribute to Bush. You think Congress is too stupid to investigate
any contentions he might make? This is NOT a dictatorship.

It's damned close considering all of the rights Bush and company have
taken away from all of us including habeas corpus.

Again, please find out how the government works. Congress has to pass
anything relating to that.

Under duress from Bush that was put in front of them to get the votes
and the fear of be called unpatriotic if they voted against those
things.

What duress? Cite examples. And indeed they WOULD have been unpatriotic not to want to protect American citizens. Are you saying YOU support terrorists or terrorism? Or do you just pull things out of thin air because of your misguided antipathy to Bush?

<offal snipped>

How is PROVING you contradicted yourself offal. Typical Chuck. By that standard anything you say pertaining to this subject should be snipped because it is ALL offal.

As for the Patriot Act. Are you saying that you want to make it easier on
terrorists to come kill innocent Americans?

The terrorist that are most apt to bring harm to this country are the
Fundamentalist Neocon Christians who are out to destroy this country
by any means available and are out to change our country to a
theocracy. The biggest threat to America does not come from somewhere
else in the world at all.

Cite examples. You really don't understand what you are saying do you? We are fighting against the theocracies and dictatorships you admire so. If you are going to try and get a point across, at least use facts. Not left wing lunatic rantings.

Have you even bothered to find
out what it is all about, or just following all the lemmings?

The only lemmings that I see are those that are willingly following
Bush as he bankrupts this country and sends our young people to their
deaths in an unjustified war.

Unjustified to you perhaps. I have a great idea for you. If you dislike this country as much as you seem to, move over to Iran, or North Korea. They should be right up your alley.

I personally
make my own decisions and don't follow any group blindly.

That certainly is not the way you come across on the screen of my
computer.

And YOU are unbiased? You have GOT to be fricking kidding. Because I disagree and call you on your rantings? PUH-LEASE!

Since the Act was
passed by a wide margin by both sides,

Out of fear put forth by Bush & company and in the heat of the "after
9/11 fear."

Please cite examples. Did Bush say "Hey, if ya'll don't vote for this I'm going to come bust you upside your head with a baseball bat?". If think he could intimidate people like that, you are even more foolish than everyone sees you to be.

it would seem that it DOES have some
merit, does it not?

No there already were ample laws to protect all Americans without
invading our rights to privacy, etc.

Are you doing anything illegal that you would need to be worried about that? I'm not, and have not had ANY of my rights infringed upon. I have done nothing illegal or seditious in order to have any of the extended powers granted by the act to come into play. You don't do anything wrong, you don't have to worry now do you? Or are you another one of those loons that sees Big Brother around every corner?

If you are saying that you support the activities of the
terrorists by rescinding it, you would seem to have more issues that it
already appears.

That remark is just plain hate mongering foolishness.

And how is it hate mongering? By rescinding the act, you empower terrorists and criminals.

Go argue with yourself of find some members of the John Birch Society.

Why would I want to do that? It is much more satisfying pointing out your fallacious contentions and conspiratorial lunacy.

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