Re: Effing nutritionist


"MI" <quilchenapark@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On 12/2/07 6:34 AM, in article 4752c252$0$2743$470ef3ce@xxxxxxxxxxx,
"Jackie
Patti" <jpatti@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kurt wrote:

I agree with the first part of your statement but I would put a
doctor, preferably an endo, before the proactive patient. We should
learn, but there should be someone with much more training who is much
more learned than we.

That's not always possible though. I couldn't decide to see an endo
until I had insurance again; my diabetes doesn't take a vacation just
cause I don't have insurance.

Also, even with two very bright minds who know a great deal, there can
be disagreement. My endo wants me on a statin. My cardiologist
doesn't. As far as I can tell, both are very well-educated
professionals. How do I decide which is right?

It comes down to having to decide for myself as I'm the one who lives
with the choice most profoundly.

<snip>

I would like to show a different reason to not take a medical degree as
omniscient.

A bit of background first. All my life I have been borderline hypothyroid.
I
was on and off medication all the time. When I became pregnant with my
first
child my obstetrician put on medication and said stay there. A year later
I
was very high. I went to an eminent endocrinologist attached to Stanford
University. He was a clinical professor. When I went to him, I told him my
background. He sent me off for all kinds of tests. Some replaced
today---PBI, BEI, T3, and a radio-active uptake test. When the tests came
back the radiologist wanted to make an appointment to destroy my thyroid
right then and there. Likewise the endocrinologist. Both of them said, the
tests are correct you must have the radiation treatment. Fortunately, at
that time I had to take a trip back to Canada where I saw my old family
doctor. He hit the roof and said don't let them do anything. I took his
advice and 6 months later my numbers were back to normal. Just think about
what the results would have been to my life if I had followed these board
certified physicians.


Just what do you think the terrible results would have been to your life if
you had listened to your doctors?

I had my thyroid gland removed due to throat cancer surgery almost 20 years
ago. I have to take one .150MCG Levothyroxine tablet daily, but other than
that, I have not had any problems because of not having a thyroid, and I
will be 70 on my next birthday.

Glad you didn't have to have the radiation treatments, but your doctors were
just doing what they thought would be best for you since you had been having
thyroid problems all your life. You could survive very well without a
thyroids, but may not have been so lucky if something else had been causing
your thyroid problem.

Don


I say you can't always trust what the doctor says. This endocrinologist, I
think, was a very knowledgable physician and a very poor clinician.
Fortunately, for the people in the Bay Area, he gave up his practice and
went to Stanford full time.

Think about it, Kurt. I know where you are coming from, but we must guard
against following blindly.
--
Martha Irwin T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia



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