Re: Another study debunks glycemic index
- From: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:22:26 -0500
W.M.McKee wrote:
:: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:13:06 GMT, Alexander Arnakis
:: <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
::
::: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:00:35 -0500, W.M.McKee <wmmckee@xxxxxxx>
::: wrote:
::::
:::: I'm sorry Alexander, but this study proves nothing, at not least
:::: as to how I read the article, which is not the same thing as
:::: reading the "study". As diabetics, the problem we face has as
:::: much to do with uncontrolled and rapid fluctuations in BG as
:::: anything else. Total calorie consumption is altogether another
:::: matter... Hi GI foods are well known to cause marked and rapidly
:::: increased levels of blood glucose. In T2's, anyway, the capability
:::: of our systems to handle the rapid rise in blood glucose is
:::: markedly impaired. Thus, if we were to throw caution to the wind,
:::: we would be right back where we started at diagnosis.... All that
:::: blood glucose, with nowhere to go, except into the toilet, or the
:::: coffin.
::::
::: "Glycemic index" charts, by necessity, list individual foods, or at
::: most simple combinations. I've found that, in the real world, most
::: meals have mixtures of carbs, fats, and proteins. It's well known
::: that the addition of fat dramatically slows down the absorption of
::: carbs. This is the so-called "pizza effect," in which, if you take
::: insulin based only on the carbs in a high-fat meal, your BG will go
::: low an hour after eating, but then go high and stay high for hours.
:::
::
:: Hi Alexander,
::
:: Yes, I agree that in practice it is not all that simple. Yet, it
:: does seem useful to have the knowledge of the GI of individual
:: foods. I guess the mix of carbs, fats, proteins, and general
:: roughage all affects what they call the "glycemic load" of a meal
:: taken as a whole. There never will be a reliable substitute for
:: testing by one's own meter and a generous helping of common sense
:: with every meal! :-)
While knowledge of GI may be useful in some cases, simply avoiding high-carb
foods and limiting total carb intake is the easiest and most effective
means, for a T2, IMO.
::
:: A while back, I simply swore off all the high GI foods, like white
:: bread, rice, etc. Then, as I got my IR somewhat reduced, and lost a
:: significant amount of weight, I found I could take an occasional bite
:: of the forbidden foods as part of a broader meal and still be OK. On
:: the other hand, too much relaxation of our vigilance as to the carbs
:: and high GI foods can be a bit like playing Russian roulette... For
:: instance, last night, I relaxed a little and had some ravioli that
:: was delicious, but this morning, for the first time in months, my BG
:: was slightly over 120...
I've read that if you restrict carbs long enough, the body supposedly
produces less of certain enzymes needed to process carbs. Point being, you
may have slightly better response but its being masked by lack of
carb-processing enzymes. Or not. :)
.
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