Re: 1 MESSAGE IN 1 YEAR ABOUT MY SUGAR, AND THEY ALL ATTACKED ME VICIOUSLY!

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>>This is what I was using:

http://www.barcharts.com/

As you can see, they provide information on a variety of subjects.  But
you'd have to buy this particular chart to see what I refer to.<<

That's a commercial site selling flash cards and other quick study aids. Not interested, thanks.

 >> I also have
something loaded on my computer called "Nutrition Facts" by Michael Silver.
I got it from someone here some years back.<<

Doesn't sound like any kind of authoritative scientific publication.

 >> Can't remember where.
According to that, a serving of plain chicken has 3.1 mg of vitamin C.  So
while there is some, it's a minute amount, given that the body needs
60-5,000 mg daily.  Salmon, Atlantic, farmed has 3.31 mg.  Again, not a lot
of vitamin C and not what I would depend on for a source of vitamin C.  Beef
seems to have none.  Ah, but then the OP doesn't eat beef.  Just looked that
one up on a whim.<<

But it doesn't really matter because the OP gets lots of vitamin C from all those green veggies. How much daily vitamin C do you estimate that he requires?

>>
>> That's not a cite.  Your hand isn't a cite.  A referenced scientific
>> publication that is available for scrutiny is a citation.  Like the ones
>> I posted for you.


Well, I've shown you where you can get my chart.  If you want to.<<<

Sorry, I want a little more information than a flashcard.



>I also looked up tofu.  I didn't find potassium listed.  So I looked it up
on the Internet.

http://www.safeway.com/wellness/healthnotes.asp?org=safeway&ContentID=1974006#Nutrition-Highlights

As you can see, it's an excellent source of some things, but not potassium.<<

You must have missed the 10,000 other citations online all listing a serving of firm tofu as having 305 mg. of potassium.

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>
>>> >
>>
>>>> >> > And I didn't assert anything
>>>> >>
>>>
>>>>> >>>adamantly.
>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>You *strongly asserted* that the other poster's diet was nutritionally
>>>> >>deficient, you even used exclamations saying "that's not balanced!" I
>>>> >>call that adamant. You've kept up saying it but not refuting any
>>>> >>citations with any science.


>>> >
>>> > I said it was not a balanced diet because he/she was eating only green
>>> > vegetables. Now if I'm wrong about this then perhaps we should write to

the

>>> > dieticians and grocery stores and the people who make up the food

pyramid

>>> > and tell them that all other vegetables are not needed.
>
>>
>> We don't have to do that, none of them said that authoritatively in this
>> thread, you did.  Now you continue to fail to provide any useful,
>> authoritative cites to back up your attack on the diet mentioned by the
>> OP.  You went on the attack here, so the onus is on you to back up your
>> assertion with cites proving the deficiency of the OP's diet.


I did not say anything authoritatively!<<

Well, yeah, you not only said it as if you knew it was true, but you've wasted a lot of bandwidth expounding on your inaccuracies and failing to take responsibility for having disseminated false dietary information.

>>
>
>>> >
>>> > I do not refute things with science because I'm not a scientist.
>
>>
>> You're no nutritionist, either, but that didn't stop you from making
>> faulty scientific assertions about the OP's diet.  I cite science
>> because I can read, and I feel obligated to share information that rests
>> on more than my personal opinions.


I didn't say I was a nutritionist.  But that term is rather meaningless
anyway.<<

That whooshing sound was an apt analogy flying over your head.

>>
>
>>> >
>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >I don't do that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>You responded to the OP with "FOAD!" I think you may do it more than
>>>> >>you realize.
>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > No... This is the only time I've ever said it.
>
>>
>> I don't believe that's true, if memory serves. And you often make
>> adamant statements backed up by, well, nothing, about the science of
>> nutrition.


>>So now you are claiming that I have used that exact term to others? Back it
up then! Show me where I did it! I didn't. "Plonked", yes. But not that
term.<<

I believe I've seen you use it more times than I can count.

You go first. Cite the nutritional deficiencies in the OP's diet. That's the only thing this thread is about. You keep *demanding* that I document, but you never offer anything but ill founded personal beliefs.

I'm sure as heck not going to waste my time reading anything of yours *twice.*


>>
>> > This troll has been here
>
>>> > before, spouting the same crap and these same silly arguments cropped up
>>> > before.
>
>>
>> Uh, he didn't spout anything but an out of the blue but unoffensive post
>> til you and others attacked. If you'd all had some maturity and self
>> control he would have been a One Hit Wonder here.


>>No...  This person has been here before and started the exact same
arguments.  Perhaps you don't remember.  But I think I've been here longer
than you.<<<

So what?

I'm referring only to the OP's original post that started this discussion. On its own, it was entirely inoffensive.


>>>> >> >But you do and now I remember why I had you in
>>>> >>
>>>
>>>>> >>>my KF to begin with. *sigh*
>>>>> >>>
>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I've been really patient with your nonsense in this thread, despite your
>>>> >>disingenuousness.
>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Whatever...
>
>>
>> Let's just say it's been quite an undertaking.
>>
>
>>> >
>>
>>>> >>This, for me, is not personal, it's a discussion about your assertion
>>>> >>that the OP's diet was nutrient deficient. Can you back that assertion
>>>> >>or not?
>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Well, I stand corrected! You heard it here folks! Nobody needs to eat

any

>>> > fruit or vegetables unless they are green!
>
>>
>> And?
>>
>> > I must just be wacked. I'm
>
>>> > sitting here eating a red bell pepper as I type. Yep throwing caution

to

>>> > the wind and eating a vegetable that isn't green!
>
>>
>> Juvenile sarcasm once again.  Who, exactly, cautioned you *against*
>> eating them?  The only person attacking the nutrition of another here
>> was you.  Read the  thread if you've forgotten.
>>
>
>>> >
>>> > Now my little chart does say that the poster could be deficient in

potassium

>>> > and vitamin B1 (thiamine) but of course I can't provide *you* with the

cite

>>> > since the chart is here in my hand.
>
>>
>> You're flailing here.  Meat, dairy, fish, all have some potassium.  Tofu
>> is loaded with it.
>>
>> Your little hand card notwithstanding.


>>I haven't the time to look up potassium for the foods. But I'm not going to
argue with you any more.<<

I wouldn't either, if I were you.

Susan


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