Re: How low can a GI go?
- From: VBHol <vbhspamtrap@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:13:42 +0000
Alan S wrote:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 09:55:00 +0000, VBHol <vbhol@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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However, some googling turned up references for the GI of tomatoes from 15 to 38. The 15 was from tomato.org btw so may not be that reliable. So I suppose that if I looked harder I might be able to find a reference for < 10. I looked at tomatoes because it is the one which sticks out in that list for me since I avoid them.
Hi VBHol
I know we're straying far from Quentin's post, but I'm sure he'll forgive me.
We had some discussions on tomatoes a while back. They, and onions, seem to be a very individual effect. Some people get bad spikes, some are like me. I get no discernible effect - raw, cooked, concentrated as a puree, whatever. Same for onions - raw, cooked or caramelised. That's why I occasionally eat a half-tomato as a quick snack, just like I'd eat an apple.
Yup, I can handle onions ok, but not tomatoes. Not sure about all varieties and preparations though so I may have to do some more experimentation. I may be basing that on a couple of readings a long time ago and avoiding them ever since. Never stop experimenting. I know that onions tomatoes etc keep coming up in the same way over time.
While I respect Brand-Miller's work, that is one of the problems with the GI and GL that becomes clear after reading these newsgroups. They are a general guide only when applied to diabetics, and should only be used in that way. The only way we can be sure is to test foods ourselves and create, in effect, our personal GL lists by post-prandial testing.
Agreed. Of course the biggest factor is that all the numbers are unreliable as soon as you combine any food with another. So the list is handy for guidance and perhaps even subsituting one thing for another. I got onto rye breads that way as an alternative to "normal" breads. But as you say, only your meter knows for sure.
Have another look at that list I posted, for example. The second item, GI = 1, is a noodle soup. There is no way I could eat a noodle soup, Turkish or otherwise, and get a lower spike than I would with a handful of peanuts, GI = 7.
I wonder what their noodles are made from. It does not sound credible to me either.
That's why an acronym unknown to scientists is the most important one of all to diabetics. Not GI, GL, BG, BP, PP, LDL, HDL or the multitude of others.
It's YMMV.
I'll stop now before we start talking about TLAs and ID-ten-T errors ;)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
Cheers, VBH. .
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