Re: New to Diabetes (T2) and new to group.

"oldal4865" <oldal4865@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:3suc89FpvrsaU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

>
> Chief wrote in message ...
>>. . .(snip). . .
>>Wonder why I wasn't told all this stuff I've been hearing today?
>>I have 'free' health care from my military retirement and a suppliment
>>to
> pay when the government decided 'free' was to free.
>>. . .(snip). . .
>>
>>Thanks Al - you take care.
>
> Your initial post confused me. I couldn't figure out what to say
> because
> I couldn't figure out what kind of instructions you had been given.
> It was almost as if somebody opened the door, threw an insulin pen at
> you, then slammed the door in your face and told you to "go away".
>
> T1 vs.. T2:
>
> Your weight loss before diagnosis is very characteristic of Type 1,
> not very characteristic of T2. The other stuff (vision,
> infections, raging thirst) is general to the newly diagnosed of either
> type though your symptoms were more severe than most T2.
>
> Those erratic, very high sugars despite weight loss, supplemental
> insulin, and a low carb diet are very suggestive of T1.
>
> Supplemental insulin hits the high blood sugars of newly-diagnosed T2
> like an 800-lb. gorilla. Some T2 who lose that much weight see all
> of their symptoms disappear and regain the ability to eat medium to
> high carb without even thinking about supplemental insulin..
>
> The T1 vs. T2 question is something you should bring up with your doc.
> Many docs still hold to an obsolete textbook teaching that all
> juvenile-onset diabetics are T1 and all adult-onset diabetics are T2.
> Actually, there is evidence that adult-onset T1, such as myself,
> outnumber juvenile-onset diabetics by 2:1. Bring it up gently
> though. Docs are like cops, they can't afford to "lose".
>
> That's important to you for two reasons:
>
> 1. You are only using "supplemental" insulin. A T1 needs MDI
> (Multiple Daily Injections) involving both basal and bolus insulins.
> He also needs an insulin training course.
>
> At this time, the easiest to use basal in the US is Lantus. #2
> (Ultralente and NPH) are inordinately difficult to use. When
> Levemir finally becomes available everywhere, it will be as easy or
> just slightly more difficult to use as Lantus. "Easy to use" =
> better bG control
>
> 2. A newly-diagnosed T2 must deal with high Insulin Resistance as
> his #1
> priority. That means the first choice in meds is an anti-Insulin
> Resistance med such as metformin.
>
> Of course, the newly-diagnosed T2 must also add weight loss and a low
> carb diet to that med but your post suggests that you have already
> embraced those two extremely powerful T2 techniques but they didn't
> work for you. Very suspicious.
>
> Regards
> Old Al
>
>
>
>

Maybe I'm the first type 3?

The Novolog didn't 'hit me' until I got up to 26 units and even then it
only drops the BG about 100. I thought I could try cutting back on the
amount last night and I was wrong.

Also the effect, according to the paperwork that comes with the pens,
says it peaks out early and then drops off quickly. It also says to eat
within 5 to 30 minutes after giving a shot.

I'm finding that the effect on me doesn't happen until 3 hours later and
lasts about 2 hours. But that varies by as much as an hour. For sure,
nothing happens for the first two hours.

So, in the beginning, I was following the directions, sticking myself,
starting a meal within 30 minutes, taking a reading two hours later and
seeing a big rise in BG, waiting an hour and seeing a big drop in BG.

I was on a rollercoaster ride. I was more worried about going to low
because it sounded more life threating.

Everytime I take a shot and then try to wait the two hours to eat is a
time I worry about this one shot being the one that acts right and happen
early. Especially when the BG is 140 to 160, because a hundred point drop
could be bad. So I always end up chickening out and eatting a little
earlier than I should.
I think I'm sticking myself in the right place (Lower stomach area).


I got two weeks before an appointment. This will be a long two weeks.

The more I hear, the more I'm thinking I'm an extremely insulin resistant
T2 whose liver is playing games with him and I was given the right stuff
but no training and an appointment to far away.
Or a Type 3 - but then I know next to nothing. Sure wish I had thought of
coming to the newsgroups a month ago.

In the beginning I didn't eat anything, I didn't feel like eating
anything. All the room in my stomach was filled with liquids. 'I was
thirsty' really doesn't begin to discribe it. I drank so much I thought
my belly would burst. I drank water for about a month that vitamins and
my own body was the only 'food'.

So the weight loss may have been due to that.

Another first today. I am learning how to use my left hand to load the
meter and work the lance so I can lance the fingers on my virgin right
hand and share the pricks more evenly.

Takecare



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