Re: BG and keytones

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What are signs of  high ketones?


One of the more reliable tests is a ketone-in-urine strip. The low-carb diets have made the strips more popular since some of the
weight loss gurus recommend starting weight loss diets by reducing
your carb intake until ketones show up in your urine.

Most pharmacies carry the strips.

Regards
Old Al





Isn't that the truth.

Maybe if some 'expert' published in some woman's magazine that
frequent sex and daisy dukes shorts were essential to losing weight the
world would be a better place - at least for the men. Come to think
of it maybe it's time for a detailed study? 

You sound like my hubby! :)

Your experience sounds a lot like mine, only I was about 10 yrs. younger. And my diagnosis was T1. Have your docs mentioned that
it's possible you're T1 instead of T2? Just the fact that they've
put you on insulin (no oral meds, right?) makes me wonder.

Mary


Hi Mary,
He never really said but I did take fairly rigorous flight
physicals every year until I was 45 and retired in 1995. I can't imagine they
missed I was diabetic all those years.

Isn't Type 1 for younger folks? And aren't low Bg's more of a problem
for T1's? I can stop eating and still have high BG readings. Even at
only 800 to 1000 cal a day I'm running an average of 160's.

I'm not talking from knowledge just wondering.

I do remember feeling more tired than normal about a year after I
retired but just chalked it up to getting older and doing less
exercise. I didn't feel the need to see a doctor until last month.

He said my BGs were to high to treat with pills and diet - so he gave
me the Novolog pens, gave me a lesson on taking a reading with a
meter, gave me a weeks supply of strips and an appointment 45 days
later - two weeks off. 

Yep, I'm thinking if he doesnt open up with some information soon I'm
out of here and looking for a new doctor.

From what I have read at the different Diabetes sites my BG's when 
they were 400 and up were to high for just pills but I have wondered
why I don't have both the pills and the shots because these shots
peak out shortly after you take one and drop off rapidly so getting
control of my BG seems to be harder than it should be.

I think he should have given me both so that I could use the pen
after meals and let the pills hold it down between meals. But then
I'm no doctor. 

Hi Chief!

I don't know what happened--I responded quite awhile ago, but it
hasn't shown up yet.  I must have sent it into outer space somehow--

Anyway, T1 can occur in children and adults of any age, contrary to
what was believed to be true in the past. I was struck by your
comment that your wife and kids could smell the acetone breath on
you--the same happened to me when I was diagnosed as T1 about 10 yrs.
ago (my co-workers could even smell it through my surgical mask). Just don't hear that too often when people recount their experiences
at diagnosis.

I'm thinking that you may find out later that your diagnosis is really
T1, especially with the presence of high blood sugars, ketones,
extreme thirst, 30lbs weight loss (that's what I had too) and your MD
starting you on insulin immediately. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I were
you I would get the opinion of a non-military endocrinologist
(preferably diabetologist), just to be sure that you're receiving the
correct treatment.

If you stay on insulin, you will certainly need a basal insulin, such
as long acting Lantus. That would even out your bgs between the meal boluses that you're taking.

Mary



The doctor I'm using is a civilain endo doc who was referred by a doctor I saw first when I thought the problem was my stomach. I will certainly have a ton of questions when I get to the second visit.

I didn't realize there were Diabetologists - Are they endos with a couple of extra courses?

This may be a strange question - Is there a benefit to having one or the other type of Diabetes? 

I'm thinking the samething - I need something for the 'tweens'

Maybe this month is for me to get it down to a managable point and then he'll figure out what the best course will be.

Thanks for taking the time Mary



Hi, this is Mary's husband, Dave. Personally, from all the emphasis on eating "just the right thing" and "low carbing" to "no carbing", I'm glad I'm a T1 on a pump. I can control my lifestyle to be more "normal" than many of those who describe what they go through as T2's. Some of the meds they take cause side effects and complications.

T2's, as a group tend to suffer more problems because of their numbers and their belated diagnoses.

OTOH, a T1's bg can go into the stratosphere during illness or mistakes in therapy.

dave
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