Re: Does losing weight cure Type 2?

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>> "rich" <dummyaddress@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in alt.support.diabetes:
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>> The same goes for walking the walk you did: controlling your T2 with your
>> personal solutions, supported by this group. You have done a fantastic
>> job, but having had that personal experience isn't necessarily the only
>> prerequesite for having the right idea how to tackle it for everyone, and
>> I don't think you (want to) claim so.
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> Exactly. I make it clear every time I describe what I've done that it
> worked for me but I make no claims that it will work for anyone else and
> that diabetes is a YMMV disease. I do not claim to havuniversal tryuth
> for everyone and that is exactly what I object to in Mary and David.
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>> Mary might well be incorrect in her assertion that _her_ professional
>> background will lead to answers no one will accept and will turn into
>> 'slamming' her, but to be honest, if a really renowned T2 diabetic
>> researcher would post here anonymously and not comply with that
>> preconceived wisdom of some here, sadly she or he would _indeed_ get that
>> treatment alright. They would be told by some to assimilate or die.
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> I'm not objecting to anything with a scientific basis Mary might say
> (although I haven't noticed much of that from her - just moralizing about
> how we don't have will power while she does) I object to her pooh-poohing
> specific effects of Insulin resistance that people with it have reported.
> She says that she gets hungry too as a way of invalidating people when
> they report that the IR creates nearly unstoppable cravings when certain
> foods are eaten. She doesn't know what it is like because she hasn't
> experienced it and pooh-poohing things one knows nothing about calls into
> question the efficacy of that education she claims to have. It is as
> stupid as if I claimed moral superiority over her because I have lost 100
> lbs. and she hasn't. That would be an absurd claim on my part because our
> circumstances are completely different and we have completely different
> diseases. But that is exactly what she has done.
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> It is rude and presumptious when a couple of t1's come here and start to
> rag on t2's and that is what I see happening with Dave and Mary. There
> are t1's on here who provide useful information to t2's without coming
> across as moralizing prigs.
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> Rich


Yes. That was my original point. I never expected to get that here in a
support group, but it is certain that the cause of the misunderstanding is
the difference between type one and type 2.

The insulin resistance DOES create an almost insane kind of hunger and it
does get better by low carbing. There is no amount of willpower that is
going to be able to conquer that sort of thing unless you deal with the IR
first. If you study the succes rates of the diet industry, you can see by
their huge failure rates, that it is a lot more than just a bit of will
power. It has absolutely nothing to do with putting down any professional
person, it has to do with real knowledge of a real problem.

By the way, the idea that insulin resistance is behind weight gain is
mentioned quite clearly in the book "Type 2 Diabetes, the first year" by
Gretchen Becker. I almost cried when I read that, having struggled for
years with weight issues and not understanding why it was so hard to do and
why I got so horribly hungry, and why some people could diet successfully
and others had such a hard time of it.

Eating low carb has helped with that a lot.

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Best Regards,
Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')


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