Re: Metabolic syndrome doesn't exist, diabetes groups claim




"Quentin Grady" <quentin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> The contrary argument which appears to be the one they are following
> is that if the cluster of risks is the simple sum of it parts then
> there is no need to believe in something greater than the simple sum.
> Deal with high blood pressure, deal with high blood glucose, deal with
> high triglycerides and low HDL, deal with abdominal obesity. Stop
> believing in something greater than the sum of these risk factors.

Howdy, Quentin:

But even if the risk factors are merely additive, isn't that glossing over
the (very real, IMO) possibility that these perceived different risk factors
may actually have some cause(s) in common? And that if that root cause is
addressed then several (or maybe even all) of the risk factors may be
alleviated?

> 4. Absence of underlying mechanism.
>
> This is an old argument. Put simply a cluster of risk factors exist
> for coronary heart disease, T2 diabetes etc. Are they one disease with
> multiple symptoms or are they multiple diseases that just happen to
> frequently occur to together?
>
> The ADA position appears to be at the moment that there isn't one
> underlying cause ie that folks diagnosed with metabolic syndrome have
> stuffed themselves up severally rather than in some way that has had
> multiple symptoms.
>
> There are those who believe there is ONE underlying disorder, silent
> inflammatory disorder.

OK, this is what I was talking about. I think that which way occam's razor
cuts depends on some stats that I don't know. If the clustering of symptoms
occurs at a statistically significant level wouldn't occam's razor say that
assuming multiple causes for a linked group of symptoms is an unnecessary
complication? The simple explanation would be that there is one underling
factor that is causing the linked group of symptoms?

Thanks for giving us a little more in depth view of the issue.

Rich


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