Re: OT/ Lower than a Snake's Belly

I guess it is only a matter of time till you leave this hell hole Sally.
I will be sad to see you go.
not much fun is it? personally I cant believe how they will tell lie after
lie
with out any care about how bad they look. lol o well.

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Tom
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"mrslang" <mslangerhans@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Quentin Grady wrote:
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>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:15:46 GMT, "rich" <dummyaddress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well said, except that personally I wouldn't put sally in there with the
>> >others. I don't agree with her, but I sense that she is sincere. But
>> >as
>> >always, YMMV.
>> >
>> >Rich
>>
>>
>> G'day G'day Rich,
>>
>> Sally has, in my experience, always sought to distance herself from
>> Tom. Hardly surprising really. Almost the only point they have in
>> common is fostering forthright discussion about the ADA.
>
> I don't try to distance myself from anyone. I tend to look at Usenet
> as a place where people meet in these little salons called newsgroups
> and are usually brought to a specific one by some sort of unifying
> theme. no doubt what this one is. believe it or not I try to judge
> everyone on what they post and selfishly what they post in response to
> me. despite his previous runins with people in this newsgroup before I
> came on board Tom does tend to have some salient points that I agree
> with.
>
>>Each time
>> they appeal to authority they get slammed with another form of
>> authority, more modern research and more recent decisions that have
>> supported those they would attack.
>
> well that's one way of looking at it. but the modern research I see is
> a patchwork quilt from many differing sources. I've learned over the
> years that someone can cobble together findings to enforce their
> personal beliefs and agenda. I realize those that post these modern
> findings truly believe that they have the one and only right answer. I
> don't happen to share that opinion. sometimes it's because I am not a
> professional myself and must use a layman's brain to decipher it.
> other times it's because the data and cites are suspiciously pushing
> one particular agenda. when it comes right down to it we all must do
> what we think is best for us. for some it's abandoning the traditional
> because they think it's lacking for others it's not putting our trust
> in someone we know only from their posts in a newsgroup. my endo is
> someone I trust because not only do I see him in person but he is a
> professional with much to lose if he gives the wrong advice. I'll read
> other opinions and advice in here but cannot put my trust in what
> someone says just because they say it. there is in my opinion too much
> doctoring going on in here.
>
>
>> IMHO she frequently uses debating skills
>
> I know you are responding to rich but this post is a lot like reading a
> psychiatrists notes on me. tell me about my mother...lol
>
>>very adeptly to support her
>> arguments ... often without providing current scientific evidence to
>> support her case.
>
> there is always current scientific evidence to support things from both
> sides. there was current scientific evidence at one time that said
> smoking was not harmful. determining what scientific evidence is
> correct and what isn't is way out of my league. and I suggest way out
> of the league of *most* in here. what amazes me is the amount of
> people in here who think they are qualified to interpret the big
> picture of health. the fact that recently in here both the ADA and
> Joslin are both discarded as authority is frightening to me.
>
>>It is a style many of us have gotten used to.
>
> gotten used to???
>
>> Is Sally a troll?
>
> to some I'm sure I am. to me people like jenny and susan are trolls.
> it's all in how one looks at things.
>
>> Hardly, though it has to be admitted that the ADA, its strengths and
>> weaknesses, is so boringly passe a topic that most people can't be
>> bothered discussing it at all until Tom or Sally fire them up.
>
> oh come on. boring, passe? in a group about, for, and by diabetics?
> the leading organization in diabetes is boring and passe? as far as
> firing people up, the majority of my posts are in RESPONSE to someone
> who has taken what I consider an unfair and malicious swipe at the ADA.
> I really do believe that some newbies come in here or lurk here and see
> all the ADA doctor and hospital bashing and just assume it to all be
> true. likewise with eating low carb is the only way to go. many here
> are convinced of those things and so they announce it over and over
> again. a few of us don't see it that way. who is right and who is
> wrong? each side firmly believes they are. and that is something that
> is the firewood for conflict in many many things much larger than just
> a newsgroup in cyberspace.
>
> my advice to you and others here is just keep doing what your doing and
> believing what you're believing and be prepared to have someone like me
> with a dissident voice. so it goes.
>
> Sally
>


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