Re: Joslin Diabetes Center



"Chris J." <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:16:46 GMT, "Thomas Muffaletto"
> <mrgantlet911@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>i also remember reading you have physical limitations and find it hard to
>>exercise.
>
> Yes, and no. They were temporary, a large abscess on my back.


i had a huge 1 removed from my back a few years ago.
if you ever watched the movie "big trouble in little china"
it looked like the round floating creature with all the bumps.
it was huge.


While it
> was bad, all I could do was hill hike. Now I'm hiking even more and
> doing some machine and free weight work.

that is great keep it up.


>
>>i do remember you saying something about doing 40 rows a day. how long
>>does
>>that take to do?
>
> That took me about five minutes, and I did if after each meal. During
> my first two weeks out of hospital, that was all I could manage except
> for hiking.


i dont know about the resistence you are using so cant comment on what
results you will get. but doing 40 reps in 5 minutes is great. i have
often read
and hardly anyone does it but each rep should take about 7 seconds - 3
seconds
on the push and 4 on the negative.


>>i am not saying you are wrong - but i have re-read some of your earlier
>>posts and you basically started a diet on your own that was extremly low
>>in both
>>carbs and fat.
>
> I did, largely due to not knowing what the heck I could eat. I'm still
> avoiding Cholesterol and will continue to do so as I have reservations
> about it, in spite of some studies to the contrary.

i lowered my cholesterol simply by making some changes to my diet
like eating leaner meats - no chicken skin and hardly ever have the dark
meat of chicken.
and replacing them with healthier fats.


>
>>i dont recall ever reading about you trying the diet not to mention trying
>>it with exercise.
>>and perhaps somone with out your limitations due to problems with your
>>back
>>can do better.
>
> I'm sure there are plenty of people, limitations or not, that can do
> better than I can with carbs. I just don't happen to be one of them.
> So, I think it's a case of what works well for you doesn't work for
> me. If I eat more carbs, my BG's go up.

you are right and that is why i wouldnt make jokes about a newbies
doctor or aganization that belives something different.


>
>>i notice a change in myself already - my back is back to normal - my bench
>>should be delivered tomorrow.
>>how is your exercise doing - any updates?
>
> I'm doing much better, thanks, and increasing. I'm hiking an hour or
> more per day, still doing reps on the rower after each meal (60, now)
> plus some weight work (free weights) three days a week.

:) that is great - you seem to have the will power.



>
> How is your back and leg trouble? Improved I hope?

great but not really. you see 2 1/2 years ago i couldnt walk 2 blocks
with out having to stop. i made a lot of changes.
i even bought the motorcycle on part because i cant smoke while stuck on
manhattans traffic,
and i get to push it around a little bit. stop a few feet before a red
light and push the bike.
my bench should be delivered today :). oooo about my condition right now.
I am right about where i was before I started my weight training. i feel
much
better than 2 1/2 years ago but not as good as i did right before I pinched
the nerve in my back.
i have to start over :).



>>carbohydrates, fats and protiens.
>>most over weight newbies need to also lookinto becoming more heathy.
>>building along with building more muclse. and low carb is a very poor
>>choice
>>to gain muscle.
>
> I've always found Protein to be the most critical for building muscle,
> but YMMV.


actually its not so much of a case of YMMV but it is to a very small extent.
you see from what I have read even the worlds beggest body builders
only need 25 grams of protien ever 2 - 2 1/2 hours.
muscles grow according to the type of exericse you do. the more you are
able
to do determines the results - the amount you are able to do is determined
in part
by the fuel you are using. not enough carbs in your diet and you attempt to
build muscle
you will end up with less muscle than someone with higher carbs-
the muscle feed on proten but you need carbs to fuel the work out.
clone someone training to run a marathon 3 times give 1 the atkins diet give
another a moderate
carb diet and the other the low fat diet ( ada ) the ADA clone will show
more improvments.

>>I think the high blood sugar numbers in here in the morning are more of a
>>problem to low carbers - just a guess but I would love to see a post with
>>everyone
>>saying what they shoot for - me I shoot for fbs 110.
>
> I'm shooting for 90, but I'm still averaging 100, though I'm seeing
> more in the 90's, slowly.

if i didnt eat enough carbs the night before I could have a liver dump (
numbers shoot up )
and then test and see the 90 and think its ok.
not saying that is what you are doing - i have no idea what you eat these
days.
except that it is very low in carb compared to me.


>
>>even if I am wrong from what I have seen here newbie's need help of
>>professionals to work with them. dietitians feed many diabetics and there
>>fore have a
>>pretty good idea of what that diet does - not to mention there extreme
>>knowledge in
>>nutritional science.
>
> I'm not arguing on that, but so far the two Dieticians I have tried
> were utterly useless. One wasn't even THERE, and the second one
> started spouting off advice before finding out a things about me (such
> as what meds I'm on, what my BG's are, etc, etc,) and tried to put me
> on a pre-printed plan to be followed exactly! That thing had 2300
> calories (darn high!)

at my weight in the begining I would have lost wieght on that.
when i followed the 1800 calorie diet i was losing weight too fast.


and included foods that, had she bothered to
> actually do her job, she would have known are lethal to me
> (allergies). Any Bozo can hand out pre-printed diets!.

but not any Bozo creates them and they are only just a starting point.
as you continue to exercise your nutritional needs will change as
you age they will change again. you and I are still very new to this
and dont really have a idea of what nutritional science is all about.


> So, I'm kind of soured on Dieticians (at least those in my area), as
> the two I've seen are quite worthless. YMMV.

I don't think you gave them a chance. I could have also went right into
a low carb diet judging from your posts in the beginning that is what you
did.
I could have made that diet work for me but that does not mean it was the
only choice
I have. keep up the exercise I hope to do some real exercise today if they
keep their word and
bring my bench today.

--
Tom
Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow

Information you can trust from the diabetes experts...
Your American Diabetes Association
http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp
the American Diabetes Association's Message Boards
http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=amdiabetesz&nav=index
Pictures of My motorcycle and I think 2 of my doggies.
http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com.50megs.com/photo.html


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