Re: Anybody frequent adh?

Well Hey There Stranger,

How you been, Sue? Good I hope. You didn't get screwed by those asinine
state guidelines, did you? It's time for all of you to move. Keep the Nym,
but become "SWBluePenguin".
You know I hate getting involved in these leftover squabbles. I never paid
much attention to them even when the house was burning down around me. It
wasn't and still is not of a whole lot of importance here. Sure there are
unforgivable sins. Trying to get somebody else's drugs, for instance. And
the MJ letter. Which is why his Kook faq's are not an altogether bad thing.
But people do change.
People are allowed to change and should have the chance to show what they're
about TODAY. To cut somebody off without the chance, just doesn't belong in
a support group. If it's business as usual with the person, well, we know
how to deal with that now. And it's not firing back, it's cutting them
adrift. Nobody has to leave or stop posting, just stop posting to the
problem person It works pretty well.
You know it's not an opinion I share, I try not to be too opinionated about
people, but you and MJ both know it wouldn't take much digging to find
people who said the same things about both of you as you guys are saying
about Ruada. I guess that holds true for any of us. I recall more than a few
unkind posts I've written. But anybody that would believe any of it would be
wrong. And even if it was right at the time, it sure doesn't mean it's right
now.
I miss the old guard. (accent on the guard part, not on the old, of course).
Even the ones I may have had issue with. It doesn't mean I still hold to any
old opinion of them. It's a new century. Well half decade anyway, we aren't
that old. Why if RJ would show up tomorrow (bless him, where ever he is),
I'd give him a cyberkiss that would make him think about leaving home.
That's another point. Maybe I am just an oversensitive fuddy, but none of us
are getting any younger, and if any of us are getting any healthier, nobody
has dropped by to announce it. I don't want anyone leaving this mortal coil
thinking I hate their asses. I hope RJ is safe and sound and feeling fine,
but it has been a long time and he was the most "prolific" of all of us for
a good while. Can't help but wonder and hope for the best. I wouldn't want
him or anyone thinking that they have a place where they're not welcome that
is supposed to be there for support. Not a place I'm involved with at any
rate. Yea, just a overly stuffed, overly pacifistic teddy goat, I guess.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the consensus is against me, but I'm not ashamed or
sorry for it. If we remembered it was all about support, and not personal
back then, there wouldn't be an issue now. And a lot of hurt would have gone
undone.
So, to today- what ya been up to? Been behaving yourself? Hope not. I've
seen you pop up here and there, now and again, in different places, but no
place steady. I've been getting real bad with email and getting in touch
with the missing in action (I was going to throw out some names hoping to
bring people in from the shadows, but I don't want to leave anybody out. You
all know who you are). You only have to buy one thing on Ebay and you'll
never have a clean inbox again. It's a real task just to pick through to
reply, muchless sit down and write. Another reason to want old friends, even
old adversaries, who might end up being new friends, to drift back in.
I hope this isn't going to be just a hit and run, Sue. Stick around. You
know you're welcomed by somebody, anyplace I'm at.

Don't be a stranger. My email is still the same--og

"NWBluePenguin" <NWBluePenguin@NWBluePenguin> wrote in message
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My reply to what OldGoat had to say:

I've sought out their knowledge of drug addiction in the past to help a
family member. Their knowledge in the abuse and addiction arena helped me
to better help my family member with their addiction.

Over the years we've had some of their regulars post in this group. Like
any group around, they have some respectful people and some not so
respectful people in their group. :)

It would be a shame to have a bunch of active junkies posting in ASCP.
It's been my experience with ADH that the chronic painers who post in that
group are there for a reason. They are also the chronic painers who like
to abuse their meds. That's just my opinion of what I've seen in that
group.

Hope no one takes offense at what I said, it is just my opinion.....


Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone here ever drops by the alt drugs hard
newsgroup. I drop by there once in a while. They seem to have a lot
of pain people that don't know about us. They also have a lot of
junkies as well. Do you think it's out of line for the legitimate crowd
to participate
in a group where they do a lot of talking about getting high? Do you
think it would be out of line or disruptive to invite some of those
folks here? I hate to sound snobby or holier than thou, and I know some
folks
from there lurk and have posted here on occasion, often with some
hostile results. A lot of us look at abusers as the whole cause of
untreated pain, rightly or not. Ok, rightly. But that doesn't mean
there aren't legit people there we might be able to help, and you
never know, we could save someone from doing something really stupid.
But I don't want to go drawing any bad influences to this group, and
posting there will do that more than likely. This is more than my
group, it's everybody's and I don't want to go starting a shitstorm
and making people here uncomfortable. So I want to know what YOU
think. Don't be afraid to sound pompous or holier than thou, I think I've
already done a pretty good job of that in this post. It could effect
the whole nature of the group, inviting drug abusers to join in our
discussions (if they come). You can probably expect to see a bunch of
"I need a Dr. Feelgood", "Name this pill", "what do you say to get
narcotics from your doctor?" and "what's better, shooting OxyContin
or shoving it up your ***?" types of questions. Lots of talk about
heroin and other illegals. So what do YOU think?

Now what do you REALLY think?--og

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave
with the intention of arriving safely in an
attractive and well preserved body, but
rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one
hand, Margarita in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming
'WOO HOO what a ride'!"
-- unknown--




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