Re: No Medical Insurance in America- The Future?

On Feb 26, 1:31 pm, "Juba" <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So, to summarize your position on this; you will continue to be
mistrustful of any healthcare proposals, unless they are designed by
poor people who have minimal education. I include minimal education,
because it's pretty difficult to stay poor if you have a good education.

Not quite.

What I would like to see is someone who cares enough to ask the ones
without insurance what they need instead of deciding for them. It's
not as simple as it looks. It's not as simple as it sounds. It's not
about education. I'm pretty darn well educated myself but from the
time I stopped working because I could no longer tolerate it until I
was granted disability my hubby and I were living on less than $30K a
year, making a house payment and doing all those other things people
have to do to live, and so forth.

If, as I've read, people have the choice between the insurance they
currently carry or the Universal Health Care plan, then there will
eventually be a mentality within the healthcare community regarding
people who choose this...because, and I speak as one who worked with
healthcare workers for over 15 years, the ones with the Universal plan
must be on it because they are poor and can't afford anything else.
This will lead to the same kind of treatment that happened with
Medicaid in the early 80's and even now. Docs won't take it, won't
treat people with it, and dismiss the ones they do treat as uneducated
drug-seekers.

I'm not assuming the worst. I'm standing on the edge of the precipice
and looking from both sides and I don't like what I see. It will
still be as it is now. Those with money will get better treatment.
Those without will get the basics, once they can find a doc who will
take care of them because, as we all know, the reimbursement for this
lower costing healthcare plan will be lower than private or company-
subsidized insurance.

Maybe I've just seen too much and have become too cynical. Docs
decide what insurances they accept. Who is going to force them to
take this plan? What about the critically underserved rural areas,
like the one I live in, where the closest decent hospital is almost an
hour away and if you have to call an ambulance, you'd better pray to
God you're not critical because you'll be dead before one of the two
ambulances in the county gets to your house?

What they could do RIGHT NOW is open clinics in these areas so people
who need the care the worst can go get taken care of before it gets so
bad they eat up millions of dollars in ICU time because as an
uninsured citizen they were denied care. There are clinics by the
dozens in St. Louis but there is not one out here, an hour from the
city. There is one pediatrician who takes Medicaid. One.

Who is going to reimburse these docs? I know they are preaching
subsidies and tax credits for the people who will supposedly be buying
the insurance, but where will the money come from to pay the docs,
nurses, hospitals, labs, MRI and XRay clinics, and all that? Heck,
there are things our own insurance companies won't pay for right
now...you think they're going to expand care when they have another
couple hundred thousand people to cover?

As for Barak, or Hillary, I'm so sick of seeing those two throwing
words at each other I could puke. Right now I'm more tempted to vote
for Ralph Nader. At least he's not on TV calling his opponents idiots
and accusing them of this, that and the other. The money they've
wasted on this TV show called a campaign would pay for healthcare for
thousands of people. Instead they're blowing millions of dollars
showing off and trying to impress people. Wanna impress me? Serve in
a soup kitchen. Work in a homeless shelter. Get your hands dirty.
Go to an inner city hospital and volunteer a few hours of your time
taking care of people who have nowhere else to go for care.

The office of president will be won by the one who can put on the best
show and impress the most people. It's not about integrity, or
honesty (hell, what's that?) or a genuine care for people. It's about
political platforms and parties and lobbyists and taking sides. The
whole game is just that, a game.

If they implement a system where everyone gets the same benefits and
the same care, then there's something to talk about. As long as those
with more have the option of buying out, those who have less will be
left with lower quality of care and limited accessibility. I don't
see anyone addressing that. What I see is an attempt at pacifying
without really putting anything into concrete terms.

I'm gonna shut up now.

Trisha in MO
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