Re: ATTACK of the WEEK-fentanyl patches



not a problem - it's just info on the guy's actual actions - he's a gbh
cook, plain and simple

i don't know [and didn't bother to try to look up] 'why' he has a script
for the patch, rather it is his approach to using them, 'with' his other
actions in rl that gives pause.

anyone who cooks up gbh is an abuser

NWBluePenguin wrote:

My reply to what OldGoat had to say:

Guess not too many people read Paul Hollands message about this guys
previous posts on drug abuse in ADH. It's amazing how many were duped by
this guy. I'm pasting Paul's post here for anyone who missed it. Hope you
don't mind Paul. :-)

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been around awhile -
back a ways, wrote:

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Date: 7 Mar 2007 20:23:34 -0800

hmm if the goo ends up getting wicked hard after a while, can yu smoke
it?
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also into gbl conversion to ghb via various methods...

Batten down the hatches folks, here it comes again. Many thanks to
those who took pity on the poor moron who wanted info on how to abuse
his Mylan patch(see Nebacanezra's post on 12/19), this story belongs
to you, every bitter goddamn word. Enjoy every bit of it, choke on
it, with "thanks" for helping the junkiecatch his buzz. Thanks for
nothing :



FDA warns of deaths from fentanyl patch

By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer 41 minutes ago

Improper use of patches that emit the painkiller fentanyl is still
killing people, the government said Friday - its second warning in
two years about the powerful narcotic.

Some of the deaths came after doctors prescribed the patches to the
wrong patients, the Food and Drug Administration said.

The drug is only for chronic pain in people used to narcotics, such as
cancer patients, and can cause trouble breathing in people new to this
family of "opioid" painkillers. Yet the FDA found cases where doctors
prescribed it for headaches or post-surgical pain.

The FDA said patients also accidentally overdose by using the patches
wrong, such as putting on more than prescribed, replacing them too
frequently or getting them too hot.

"While these products fill an important need, improper use and misuse
can be life threatening," said FDA pain chief Dr. Bob Rappaport. "It
is crucial that doctors prescribe these products appropriately, and
that patients use them correctly."

The FDA first warned about improper patch use in 2005, when it
announced it was investigating 120 deaths.

Although FDA has investigated the new reports for several months,
Rappaport refused to say Friday how many additional deaths the agency
has learned of since that first warning.

He called the number of reports small but concerning because "they are
preventable."

Friday, the FDA said it had ordered patch makers to create special
medication guides that will come with every box, spelling out proper
use in easy-to-understand language.

What kind of mistakes are happening?

The consumer advocacy Institute for Safe Medication Practices
highlighted some cases last summer. One patient died after being
given a patch for post-surgery pain despite having pneumonia and
being new to narcotics. Two others survived, an elderly man taken to
the emergency room after being given a patch together with
painkilling pills and an elderly woman who became delirious while
wearing several patches at once.
The FDA's main message Friday: Do not prescribe fentanyl patches to
anyone new to opioids, the painkiller family that includes morphine.
Absorbing fentanyl through the skin is a powerful way to deliver the
potent drug, and thus poses serious risk to anyone not already
opioid-tolerant, Rappaport explained.

Doctors who aren't specially trained in pain management may not know
that. But Rappaport said FDA isn't considering curbs on prescribing
because there is a great need for the patches among the millions of
chronic pain sufferers, few of whom get care from pain specialists.

Among the warnings:

_Fentanyl patches can cause severe trouble breathing. Get emergency
help if you have trouble breathing or extreme drowsiness with slowed
breathing; feel faint, dizzy, confused; or have other unusual
symptoms. They can be signs that you were prescribed too high a dose
or took too much.
_Fentanyl patches are only for round-the-clock pain that is moderate
to severe and expected to last for weeks. They are not for sudden,
occasional or mild pain, or pain after surgery.

_The patches should not be your first narcotic painkiller.

_Ask your doctor how often to apply the patch, whether to reapply one
that has fallen off and how to replace it. Doing any of that wrong
can cause an accidental overdose.

_Do not use heating pads, electric blankets, saunas or heated
waterbeds, take very hot baths or sunbathe while wearing a fentanyl
patch. Heat may increase the drug's absorption, causing a
life-threatening overdose. Call a doctor right away if body
temperature becomes higher than 102 degrees while wearing a patch.

The patches were first approved under the brand name Duragesic in
1990, but generic versions are sold by other manufacturers.

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave
with the intention of arriving safely in an
attractive and well preserved body, but
rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one
hand, Margarita in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming
'WOO HOO what a ride'!"
-- unknown--
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