Re: Pain Management Agreement - DEA required?



In article <1194381763.094495.216440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Legend <livinnow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 5, 10:34 pm, MGW...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Nov 5, 8:56 pm, Sean C <redh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I have a question for everyone here:

Why don't you demand that your doctor get a urinalysis as a condition
of treating you? After all, if your doctor's a druggie who is diverting
meds for his own use the odds are much greater that the DEA is going to
raid him than if you're a druggie. Since a DEA raid will not only
result in you immediately losing your meds and being plunged into
cold-turkey withdrawl unless you have violated your pain contract and
the law by hoarding a contingency supply of extra pills, shouldn't you
have some protections as well? Also, if your doctor gets busted by the
DEA, you immediately get stigmatized as one of his patients and no
doctor will touch you with a ten foot pole for fear that the DEA will
follow you to them.

Shouldn't you be able to demand a blood test imemdiately prior to a
surgery, trigger-point injections or other procedures where your
doctor's being drunk or stoned might have severe consequences?

The reason why you don't do this is obvious: you have no power. Your
doctor will either laugh at you, or get all haughty and outraged at the
suggestion he might be a drug user or had ti many martoonis at lunch
time and boot you out of the office.

And it is this reality, this differential of power, that needs to be
changed. The contract is merely a formality that puts into writing the
reality of the situation. If you want to get treated, you have to sign,
and I don't blame anyone for doing so. It would be insane not to. But
I can't understand the attitude that says it is okay and understandable
that they should wield this kind of power over us. It isn't.

--Sean C

Sean,

I'm really intrigued by your suggestion. I'd love to walk back into
that doctor's office and propose he sign a similar contract. If he
hesitated, I could ask why he would have a problem with it in the same
condescending tone he used with me.

But I'd worrry about what he would do to retaliate. Would I be
somehow 'black-listed'? I have been shocked to read what doctors put
in writing to each other regarding patients they consider 'difficult'.

I'll have to consider this. Wish I had the guts to actually do it...

Racer-X


Well, I'm not Sean, but here's my two cents; I don't know what they
do, now, but remember doctors NEVER giving out info on their
patients. They'd talk a big game; but, there have been some rules
about what they can share, and they don't violate them very often.

OTOH, are you sure you can do without this doc? I know you said you'd
be walking out, but sometimes it's hard to find a doc who's willing to
prescribe, under any circumstances.

If you decide to do it, though, try and bring a friend, with a
webcam:-)


-Legend

I really wouldn't recommend anyone ask their doctor to do this,
although it certainlky seems a reasonable precaution prior to a
surgery, given the high incidence of malpractice. The most likely
result of any controntation with a doctor, no matter how valid, is
denial of treatment. At a minimum, he's going to have an attitude about
you as most don't like being chastised with inconvenient facts. So
consider my suggestion "food for thought."

--Sean C
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