Re: You MUST KNOW THIS MAN

On Aug 27, 10:41 pm, Legend <livin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 25, 6:34 pm, PAINxtreme <dave...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Aug 25, 3:12 am, Codee...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:59:20 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses

<after-dark-a...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:18:11 -0000, Legend <livin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
something wonderfully witty:
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Oh, puh-leeze!!!

So, since some people calling themselves Muslims, did some baaad
things..now, a mslim has to live better, work harder, and do they
very verry best to prove that nno, suh, it's not them who's flying
planes into buildings and all that ***. oh, no...they's the good
ones! And so have to prove it by little things, like abiding the
internet law, teaching they fellow Muslims, stayn' away from
pot(?)..well,maybe not that much'-but; you get the idea. They should
be Muslin equivalents of ;Uncle Tom.'.

Absofuckinlutely, the more the mainstream Muslims move away from their
radical brethren the better it will be for both the world & them.

How many Muslims do you know in THIS country who are extreme,
and not horrified by what those who know little of their religion
assume of them?

Every Imam in every nook & cranny of the world needs to come out
calling for a unified Fatwa on any an all who preach that violence is
a legitimate means to an end in the name of any religion. They also
need to make it known that Martyrdom isn't the express train to heaven
& 72 Virgins, but 72 armed Virginians.

How do you know what the conservative Muslims are preaching?

The ones I know are (like Christians who aren't obnoxious), living
their lives with tolerance, and showing by example what their true
religion is about.

codeee

Im dumb enough to keep dipping my toe into this pond. Not living in
New York or any other site with an exceptionally large Islamic
population, But I am in between 2 College towns....one small, one
huge... I havent personally known any Muslims that I thought were even
remotely dangerous, but I have know a number who are truly terrified.
Interestingly, in Chicago 3 weeks after 9/11, I got into a cab with
an Iranian driver who spent the 30 minute drive telling me how much he
loved America, and all Americans...he acter like he was afraid I'd
hiJack the cab or something (I did negotiate a cheaper ride out to
Irving Park from Downtown however) Thats about the extent of my
direct exposure....I do read, and yes I've take many differing
religion classes, Geopolitical Science and all the stuff you pat
yourself on the back for having stayed awake thru.

I do have to say...I think its time to direct our religous war efforts
to the differing factions of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That's
where its really at.

Degas Vobiscuits,
-dave

Yes, the flying spaghetti monster makes as much sense as anything
discussed so far-more.
I live in New York and, yes, Muslims were treated badly-and were
scared. The driver probably thought he HAD to keep praising the
US...could you imagine,one with chronic pain-criticizing the
government as much as we do?

I haven't actually tried reading Arabic-although I've given Hebrew a
try, and did pretty well with koine greek-the languages of the Bible.
And devout Muslims require that the Koran e read n it's original
language-and I've hesrd from many sources-Arabic IS a difficult
language. In fact, I believe it's only the spoken language of a few
places-Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and probably the small counties on the
Arabian peninsula. Iran, afghanistan, and some others speak Farsi.

Well, this ahs been a heated thread for me. I'm trying with others-
but they're not growing like this-or else they are talking about a
support subject that I can't add to-except to say 'talk it all out
with your doctor' and 'if surgery is involved, get a second opinion'
which i'd say to almost anyone.

You have a healthy attitude, dave-don't let anyone intimidate you.
even me.

-Legend

Ah, Im not intimidated, im not amazed, but always amused to be sure.
Ive had a ton of experience with The Arabic Language itself, since
every bit of printed material Mayo Clinic produced was also produced
in Arabic....if anyone recalls They suck the teat of the United Arab
Emirates like nobody's bidness. Im not saying I can read it, but I
worked very closely with our interpreters 3 ladies of arab stripe,
they were rather nice. I shpuld have mentioned that while I was in
rochester,MN there was a really large arabic and muslim population,
due to the clinic. I dont recall any threats or any kinds of actions
other than the signs that all read : "Mayo Clinic does not allow guns
on these premises". I always wanted to find out which premises they
did allow them on. Im not here to say I know more about any kind of
person than anyone else, though i quite often see examples of people
that i have a pretty good idea that i know more about most everything
than. There were also tons of Somalis in rochester, and they were
extremely dangerous, in the way they handled driving as if every area
was wide open savavnah, and you could turn thru medians, cut across 10
lanes, hop the curb into the parking lot and roll right along like a
safari.

I come to the spaghetti monster because, i refuse to live my life in
pants pissing fear that some booga booga man is gonna get me on an
airplane, a building, a spider hole, a waffle hut...i just dont care.
I protect those close to me as best as i can, and if anyones been
paying aNy attention to me, they know i am over protective of my
family....but thats mostly from people who need to get to town so fast
that they need to fly past the stop sign on the school bus. Or the
teacher that thinks my kid needs pills or she just cant be
taught....though last year i lied to them about her taking meds and
she passed on b honor roll, blah blah blah blah blah. i take care of
those i care for from things that are actually likely to happen liike
those things above, tornados as well, and i sprayed a buttload of
wasps the other day. other than all that, im gonna think we will be ok
as long as we can keep bills paid and heat and lights on.....they have
free wireless net in my area, so thats a bonus.

I dont hold any religion in contempt. My faith has been such an anchor
to me thru all my recernt trials, and sometimes the darkness seems to
extend too far for me to even see the l;ight of that at
times....tthose are the things im scared of. I try as a general rule
not to be afraid of everything i do not understand, but ijm sure at
times i am knowingly or not. i have my philosophies on many of these
things, but this is not where i choose to have in depth discussions
about them, sometimes i dont discuss them with anyone, other things i
share with my family as my set of values and beliefs...sometimes
coming here, you would believe there was an award show somewhere for
best internet fighters of the year in several categories, complete
with the wrap it up light. Codeee, when i wrote the thing you
responded to, i wasnt even responding to anything youy had said, so no
worries...i was, as normal just babbling....and if i was babbling in
arabic, heres one key, it would start at the end and read backwards,
they read right to left, and their books start on our last page.

Im trying real hard to be the shepard here ringo. but all i can muster
here is silliness....its truly where all the value is these days.
hanks for saying my attitude is healthy....at least part of me
is.....but sometimes even it is tested....but the one thing im
learning the longer i live is that i dodge more unhealthy things, ugly
things, and hurtful things, if i can just say one thing, really mean
it and understand it....and when it applies it hurts a lot of people
to do it, but it frees my soul in ways i learn about daily if i let
myself...we can all say were sorry...and thats a good thing, but what
im talking about is a little harder, and most dont seek it because
they see no worth in it, since it may as well be a sign around ones
neck, saying "i am weak", but truly it takes strength to say it, and
wisdom to understand when to say it and what it means. Im going to say
it now to all and anyone...here and elsewhere that it
applies..........I was wrong, I did not know and sometimes i knew and
i was still wrong.

now im back to funland, kids...be nice

vegas doughbiscuits,
-dave tfsm

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