Re: Pain Doctor Sentenced to 5 years!!
- From: "Paul T. Holland" <pholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:34:43 GMT
OldGoat wrote:
Dear Paul,
From what I heard about the guy he was an office pig, files and paperwork
everywhere.
that is a 'kind' description
But even if he was an "easy mark", he was the only hope for a
lot of legitimate people both in Virginia
and all over the country.
and thus the problem - if he wouldn't do the necessary, and weed out the
ones who were scamming him, how is/was he protecting those that did need
his help? the duality opened the door to the whole mess!
My questions at the end of the day is why was this the situation, why did
people have to get to monthly appointments by plane, unable to find the same
level of care anywhere else?
no single answer
some with a medical degree are still ignorant and don't want to have to
'deal' with pain and it's problems; too much work
some are simply afraid of the local community attitudes
some still believe the 'reefer madness' style propaganda of the zealots
in power positions
and other reasons i'm sure
May be he would have found time to weed out the
BShiitters and do his paperwork if others had an alternative.
sorry, og - don't agree. he is what he is - these were choices 'he' made
[didn't make really] having nothing to do with volume. he's always
operated this way. lthat's way this was a 'repeat' of past occurances.
Who's doorstep
does that baby belong on?
to me, a large degree of responsibility is at the feet of the various
medical associations - starting with tha ama itself - as organized as
they are, and with the financial pockets they can draw from - they have
been comparitively gutless wehn it came down to insisting upon science
not emotion on this issue.
yes, there a re a couple of exceptions. but not very many...
same goes for trial lawyers, social workers etc...well educated
individuals and the organizations they belong to need to step on this
issue. i would include organized religion but...
And why's the media treating this as a new case, another pain doctor gone
loco?
by the media, i presume you mean the advertising driven 'popular'
distribution methods that haven't any moral compass other than the
latest rating results in today's bread and circus atmosphere?
It's old news, a long way from the "crackdealer he was in 2004, but
it's new news to those who want to use it as such, even Karen Tandy and her
bag full of Good and Plenty. She belongs in jail for manufacturing evidence,
jury tampering, and perjury.
it would be interesting to know just who was involved and at what level
decisions were made...
And accessory to murder. How many quit instead
of fought? "that dumb bitch at the DEA" doesn't narrow it down in a suicide
letter.
all too likely...
Hang in there, man--og
working on it
be well
paul
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"Paul T. Holland" <pholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:469E9003.D09F47A0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
hey og'
there was more to some of the articles, chronicling how the judge threw
out many of the more extreme charges [the ones that would have resulted
in a life sentence], and - equally to the point, saying that they [gov]
hadn't satisfied requirements to show reason for more serious jail time.
the following is personal opinion
in essence, at the end of the day, hurwitz was held responsible for [by
not adhering to proper procedures] aiding and abetting multiple illegal
drug sale operations, made possible because of the way he ran his
practice.
as a medical professional, he is required to run things in a manner that
would not allow 'ongoing' drug diversion. remember - several of his
'patients' scammed him over a multi year periods. for all intents and
purposes, his lack of controls gave free entree to very large amounts of
controlled substances over several years.
as to the whole durn thing, it should be noted that hurwitz [and atty]
have, since the conviction started to say [admit] that
yes, he didn't have good records,
yes, he 'trusted' patients without monitoring valid need or running
tests,
he 'trusted' patients that he 'knew' were addicts to tell the truth.
[addicts can have real pain like anyone else]
yes, without urine/blood tests he couldn't know if the patient is
actually taking the prescribed drugs, and yes, many of his patients
'were' selling the prescribed drugs over extended periods of time,
yes, a couple of his patients did die from overdosing on the prescribed
drugs mixed with other street drugs.
i've said from the gitgo that having met hurwitz i found him to be this
incredible caring individual -
but also knew that at least one previous partner had split from the
practice out of fear because of the "incredible shoddy paperwork
practices" and lack of "proper protocols for patient monitoring"
hurwitz isn't a dealer in any common use of the word -
and he certainly wasn't getting rich [well paid, but not obscenely so],
but in the legal sense of complicity through neglectful practices, he
was, and is, a part of the problem -
a percentage of his patients were/are criminals that have made a hash of
it for everyone -
i think it important to remember that the medical board had issues with
him several times in the past, and 'they' didn't have a mechanism in
place to require him to [make sure of] clean up his records and/or have
procedures in place that might have weeded out the bad actors. why not?
they are the medical experts, and they understand the need to protect
both the individual patient as well as the general public - that hurwitz
was on the cutting edge was no secret - didn't that deserve careful and
frequent scrutiny?
the guy was [is] a terrific, compassionate physician who didn't do his
'job'; as result, there was an ongoing, drug sale enterprise in
operation.
undoubtedly, those criminals would have found another way to do business
without hurwitz
many of us have had to submit to random or even regular testing - which
protects doctors from being gulled as hurwitz was. many of us have had
our treatment and/or dosages held to a lower standard than we would like
- someone like hurwitz, who had been admonished before to clean up his
procedures, gives credence to the fears that other doctors feel.
i don't think it fair to both sides of this issue not to admit that
hurwitz 'hurt' many folk in his practice and even around the country by
his actions -
he was 'not' responsible for patients lying, his is responsible for
letting them get away with it thru inaction.
sure the gov threw everything including the sink into this case - it was
sloppy and overblown -
but in the end, it looks as though hurwitz is being held [and sentenced]
to a standard that - in other situations and circumstances - we would
'want' a doctor to be held to.
that tandy and company are getting such press out of it is very, very,
sad. that the press hasn't yet been able to write this up without simple
presentation of actual facts is even sadder.
it's pretty terrible that it came to this for hurwitz and i wish it
weren't so -
but when you remove the caring and compassion for which he was justly
known, he screwed up in so many ways, for so long, that he did need to
be stopped.
we need to remember that he'd been thru it before, was found to not be a
bad doctor, just one with an act that needed cleaning up - and promised
not to let it happen again.
yet he wwent right back to his old ways - we also need to remember that
in the final analysis, this wasn't about 'over' prescribing - he proved
that his methods were appropriate for those legitimate patients
it was about not properly running his practice, and protecting the
public from excesses perpetrated by patients who - had he done the usual
and necessary - would have been stopped long ago.
OldGoat wrote:
Hey folks,
You have already probably read the articles touting this great victory
for
the DEA. It's headlines all over the DC metro area since the guy
practiced
here.
It's doc Hurwitz. No mention of how their case was so weak, the lies
told,
taken for fact, and their sentencing so stupid, that he was originally
given
life in jail. Just more pictures of Karen Tandy, Director of the DEA,
holding up a baggie with 64,000 pills in it which was bullshit to begin
with
and a typo in the DEA testimony which was retracted a few days later,
some
where near the Lacrosse scores.
But plenty of new coverage on an old case, with no mention of how asinine
the whole thing was. There's that 2 for 1 DEA math again, and of course
it's
"soft hearted, liberal judges" that are letting him out in 17 months.
My apologies to Trisha for making such long winded comments to some of
the
questions regarding the media as our biggest stumbling block to adequate
care, but a better example you will not find. Until the next one.
It's enough to MAKE you sick--og
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