Re: Hey Back People-something new!!!

Dear Wayne,

I thought I laid the sarcasm on heavy enough, but better too much than
someone taking me literally. Hang on to those pills like they were your
life. or wife, depending.
Hopefully Top will read this far down. the bitch with fusion and all the
other procedures out there, is they tend to put extra stress on the level
above and below. They can't go much lower than L5/S1, but they can go up
plenty. Be careful with multilevel fusions like that, especially with
multiple procedures. Adhesions (scar tissue) build up on the underside of
the incision every time they reopen you and after a point they become a
bigger problem than the actual injury/defect. They can open you again and
cut them out but it creates more scar tissue,, and on and on, it never ends.
We should talk a lot about any more cutting before you talk with a surgeon.
Not saying yes or no, just talk to people who have had multi level, multi
procedure fusions, those that have passed on any more surgery and the
results from all of them going through the process you face. I'm not one of
them , I'm a one timer and that was enough for me.

And Wayne- keep in touch--og


"Hawaiian Wayne" <birdie998@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 10:10 am, Top <topreti...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:23:11 +0000, OldGoat wrote:
Hey guys,

I hate it when they have such an important story for so many of us and
they
treat it like it was Cheney's dog (Bush) taking a dump on the White
house
lawn. It was a 30 second blurb at most.
There's a new procedure out for disk issues, so put all your plans for
fusion on the back burner (you listening, Ronnie?) It called a D-lift.
It's
micro surgery which leaves a scar about a 1.5" long. The approach is
not
from the back or the front but the side. I wish I could read my notes
better
but they did the story so fast...
They basically go in the side and remove the bad disk a little bit at a
time. The fix is so simple it's absurd no one thought of it before.
They put
a spacer in just like a metal washer or shim, till it's lined up right
and
the space is what it was supposed to be before the disk got screwed up.
The
side approach avoids all the nerves that end up being so much of a
problem
after surgery that land us in walkers and wheelchairs.
This is new, I haven't done my home work on it, but it's approved and
it
makes more sense than cutting and dancing around all the nerves in the
back.
Once again it called a D-lift and I only have about 30 seconds worth of
info
on it which is not enough going under a knife, even if it's micro
surgery,
but being an old mechanic, it's finally a repair that makes sense. So
it's
worth looking in to before they freeze 3 or 4 disk levels in place,
removing
all spinal flexibility with a titanium cage and a bunch of screws,
hoping
the bone grows over it all.
People are up and walking the SAME DAY and out of there the NEXT day. I
wouldn't be winding everyone up if it wasn't for that little fact. Out
of
bed that day and walking out under your own steam the next day and a
scar
and inch and a half long is a big difference than at least 3 days in
the
hospital, an 8 inch scar and 6 months of post op rehab, It would be
enough
for me to cancel until I got more info on this D-lift. Hit the search
engines, that's where I'm headed and see if they can do it at 3
different
levels.
It may sound too good to be true and there's got to be more to it than
they
can cover in a 30 second story, but another option is another option
and
they're all worth investigation before a decision involving a knife.

I'll let you know what I find, please do the same.--og

Thanks OG. I'm about ready to tell my PD I'm ready to go for surgery.
When
I see a surgeon this will be something to ask about. My situation is that
I've had 4 surgeries already, 3 micro-discetomies and 1 fusion of L4 thru
S1. Now I have probelms up through L2. Stenois and other problems up to
L2
thanks to DDD and years of abusing my body in the Army. I'm hopefull that
something can be done to ease the pain and reduce the pain meds. Thanks
for your time and effort. I'm reading the links that have been post as
well.

Top

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Aloha All!

I know when we are talking about "flushing our meds", we're being
faceitous. At least I HOPE you all are! I wouldn't even THINK about
flushing any of my meds until a YEAR after any spine surgery! (Unless
they are going to turn into vinegar from already being past the
expiration date!)

I remember after my 2nd surgery...I was 2 month post-op and I felt A-
OK and was getting a job all lined up and everything...then...BANG, it
hit. That sickening feeling of familiar pain slamming me down again.
Man, did I fall into a depression then! And I WAS thinking of flushing
my pain meds a week or two beforehand! I'm glad I didn't.

You all know how hard it is to GET them and how easy it is to get RID
of them. Hang on to your pain meds long after you think you are
"cured" of any spine problems. PLEASE!

This is just me and my worrying 'instinct', yet again.

Aloha Just For Now,
Hawaiian Wayne



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