Re: home visiting docs
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- Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:16:14 -0700
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The thought struck me while watching a news report on health care for the
poor - a lot of people (poor and otherwise) are homebound by their chronic
this is what the OP asked....."chronic conditions" ...poor or otherwise who are homebound....
ie..these folks more than likely need CHRONIC followup...scripts written etc
Are there internists and specialists who see such people
their homes? If so, how would such doctors be found? If by web search,
what keywords would be best to enter?
For the poor, the best ones gonna prolly find is Visiting Nurses, which isnt a bad thing, btw.
and you chime in with "visiting nurses"...( for the poor..your quote)..
Yea, but I didnt say "Visiting nurses are for the poor". I said "For the poor, the best one's <for home medical visits> gonna prolly find is Visiting Nurses". Big differnce. Note the "prolly" in there too. So it wasnt stated as absolute fact either. But one thing is for sure: The poor have fewer options avail to them for home visits of medical personnel unless theyre dying. That doesnt mean that whatever options the poor are gonna find available to them are ONLY for the poor and no one else, and Ive never claimed anything like that either. VNA is for anyone who needs the service and Ive never claimed otherwise, and taking the words in my sentence out of order to suit yer purpose is just plain ridiculous.
now tell me mr know nothing...do the VNA write scripts?? course not
I really didnt know the answer to that, but back when my mom had her last major surgery, I dont even think I was aware of any nurses who could write scripts anyways. This was back in '79. But I know w/my mom, when she was seen by a VN after her major abdominal surgery and needed more pain meds (Sched 2's) that the VN called and got it all arranged for her in record time, from getting the doc to write it, to having me pick it up and getting it filled for her and making sure I knew how she was sposed to be taking em, so it wasnt like having the ability to write scripts is a necessity for a VN anyways. That VN did a great job and didnt need to write be able to write a script to ARRANGE for one to be written without my mom having to go into the doc to get a new heavy duty pain med for her surgical pain.
But there are allot of NP's who do write scripts these days, and so are all VN's just RN's or are some NP's and able to write scripts?
do they follow chronic conditions?? highly unlikely
That I dont know either, and I wasnt answering the OP's question like it was the end-all answer either--I was just giving one option or idea....and guessing from yer "highly unlikely" remark, yer not entirely sure of the answer either! But since poor ppl have ALLOT fewer options then those with great insurance and extra money to pick up the slack, I thought that VNA could possibly be an option, cuz theres gotta be SOMEONE out there who helps those w/chronic conditions and comes to their home, esp. lower income ppl w/chronic conditions. Whats wrong w/presenting an option to someone asking a question? Esp. when its presented as a possibility, not an absolute! Show me where I ONCE claimed "Visiting Nurses are only for the poor" or "Visiting Nurses are yer only option". I didn't, and if ANYONE else had written what I did, the same way as I did, you woulda seen it for what it was intended instead of playing these games.
again..something you know nothing about
"visiting nurses" are nOT only for the poor..
I DIDNT SAY THAT! I said that they were prolly the only option for the poor, not that they were created for the poor or that only the poor could utilize em! Geez, learn to read!
again..you know very little of the function of the VNA....they are nOT for visiting the homebound chronically ill...
I happen to think very highly of the VNA. They helped my mother when she had her last surgery about a year before death, coming virtually every day to help her out. And she wasnt poor OR on Medicaid.
.why...Medicare pays for
it!!...not to mention MY PPO plan
obviously in particular circumstances..ie..post op where dressing changes or IV meds etc are needed...
"visiting nurses"...also called public health nurses in some areas ARE not for the poor only
Again, I never said that. I said that in terms of home visits, aside from hospice, which is only for the dying, Visiting Nurses are gonna be about all someones gonna find. How does that translate that VNA is for the poor?
hummmm...because you said "for the poor ...etc"
twisting words ...yeah right...
again...the VNA is NOT for the chronically ill...nor for the poor with no coverage of any sort..
you are wrong LC...
(unless yer just trying to twist words for entertainment?) It
just means that they are all someone poor is gonna get, cuz they surely cant get a concierge doc, and of all the docs who do treat the poor, mebbe 1 in 10,000 willl do a home visit, if that.
have a sister who did home visits for years..
again LC...you are a know nothing imbecile
No, the imbecile here is the one who twisted something into meaning something else entirely, even tho thats NOT what it said, its only what you wanted it to say.
For those w/money, the words to put in a search
engine should be "concierge doctor" cuz for a sizeable yearly fee, theyll supposedly come & do home visits (although Ive yet to hear whether or not these docs have actually followed thru and shown up on anyones doorstep juts cuz they paid out a grand or two under the pretense that theyd actually do it.)
again ...something you know nothing about....
the concierge docs around here charge way more than a grand or two a year...
and yes..they do show up when requested...
you are an imbecile
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