Re: Hospital Care

Don't get me wrong, the nurses are the key, I was not at all trying
to disrespect the nursing community, believe me, if it was not for
good nurses, most ER Docs would be out of business from mal-
practice, I see the RNs save their butts over and over.

The point I was trying to make is, that you can have the greatest
doctor in the world, but if you are in the hospital, you need to make
sure you are not in a place where the nurse to patient ratio is 20:1.

Around here it is well known that if you go to the big university hospital,
you will get the best docs in the world, but the nursing shortage is
horrible,
and those nurses that are there are so underpaid and horribly treated
that they are not able to provide necessary care.

Maybe capitalism will change some of this, 30 years ago there were so
few for profit hospitals out there and now they seem to make up the vast
majority of non teaching institutions, folks will go where they know they
will be taken care of, and it is the nursing staff that does the "taking
care of"
not the docs.


--
Patrick

Patrick H. Mason MS, OHST, EMT-I

A delusion shared by many is a culture; shared by some is a cult;
shared by 2 is love; but a delusion held by one is psychosis.
"One of Juba's Critics" <Zomby-Woof(Says_Juba_is_a_pill_peddler)@x.net>
wrote in message news:onfeq1d92cftplpijkbjl142d9q9rk3m2c@xxxxxxxxxx
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:15:07 GMT, "Patrick" <jimmyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >I was reading some posts about folks being in acute pain
> >in the hospital and something occurred to me.
> >
> >If one is in the hospital, unless it is a large teaching hospital
> >with a resident sleeping in the empty room two doors down,
> >or having a procedure done that very moment like a surgery,
> >or in the ER, then one is really not getting MEDICAL care.
> >
> >Most of the time when someone is in the hospital, they are getting
> >NURSING care, and the only time the doctor is involved is when he
> >is making his rounds or when the nursing staff CHOOSES to call them,
> >the nurses have all the power in those situations, you can bitch all you
> >want to your doc about whether the nurses did this or that, but frankly
> >they don't get their pay checks from the same person so he can do
> >very little.
> >
> >My advice, go to a hospital where you have talked to the nursing director
> >first, and told them that you know you have a choice which hospital
> >to go to and if your nurses are not going to treat you with the utmost of
> >respect then you will take your business down the street.
> >
> >That may be the only way to get the care you really need.
> >
> >I was in nursing school for 3.5 years and there was rule of thumb
> >at the time that our teachers told us "no one dies from pain".
> >
> >So if your nurse does not feel like calling your doctor to get an order
> >to up your pain med dosage, those may be some of the reasons why.
> >
> While I agree with almost everything you say here Patrick, it has been
> my experience that the Nursing Staff is the only ones who actually do
> care. They are the ones who are dealing with the patients 24x7 not
> the Doctor as you've said. There is no upside for them keeping a
> patient in pain or even in the dark as far as their medical treatment
> goes.
>
> I have nothing but the utmost respect for the majority of Professional
> Nursing staff I have ever been involved with. On top of doing many
> nasty and distasteful tasks they also get to deal with the unruly
> patients whom the Dr simply blows off, forgets about, or otherwise
> neglects.
>
> Regardless of how small of a hospital or how limited the MD staff
> there is always someone on duty, at a minimum in the ER, who can write
> a patient orders for pain medication. After all the chart is there
> and available to all of the staff so there is no issue of not knowing
> what is going on.
>
> Way to many people, and I once was one of them myself, simply show up
> at a hospital and say fix me. They are complacent at best about their
> overall medical care and are not an active participant in their
> treatment program, or if they are they make a royal PIA of themselves.
> --
> Zombywoof
>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum


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