Re: Duragesic Patches Don't Stick

Dear Gix,

The new spot on the body is to keep the flow rate constant, The drug forms
sort of a subdermal pocket below your skin. Imagine you were planting a
tree in a hole instead, extra water at first is ok. Sooner or later it gets
saturated where it cant hold any more water same deal kind of, no more drug
in to the hole.
As far as heat goes they never gave be a specific number, but when I asked
about a 103 degree hot rub I thought they were going to jump out of the
phone and take em back. I'd be very careful getting close to body temp
(your skin can sweat, the patch can't) and if you get the flu (god forbid)
and you can beat 101.1 call the doc and switch to an oral med for a while
And people have kicked the bucket (not reading their patient notes, no
doubt) using a heating pad right over the patch. Maybe he had fat life
insurance??
Pay attention to what Sue said about placement. Torso arms and shoulders.
Got's something to do with absorption rates on different parts of the body.
Watched a CSI once (great medical advice from TV where they had a couple of
young kids pull a Romeo and Juliet by putting a 100 in each hand. and they
died holding hands peacefully. HollyWould... Maybe if they showed then
puking their farewell pizza all over each other then trying for one more
game of hide the salami, then passing out and drowning in their own puke
they'd ask why instead of having no drilled in to their brains. Kids have
heard no so many time by the time they get exposed to drugs, they know the
word has no meaning anymore.
<all right... I'm off my soapbox ...next>

Hope those patches work good for you. I know from experience multi patches
are a pain, but on the flip side that's pretty strong stuff. And if your
insurance is willing you can gain lots of fresh real estate by using the
25's and spreading them around, but that's big$$.
Good luck--og,



Gixxer <gixxer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in article
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> Thanx for tip about Duct Tape OG - I'm about to start on the patches, you

> say to avoid hot water, at what point does this become an issue. I am
mainly
> thinking about showering and how much hot water is a bad thing. Also you

> say you need a new spot for each patch, why? and how often can you reuse
> each piece of skin? I would also like to know where on the body you can
wear
> them as my GP has know idea, but thought the shoulder and upper chest
would
> be best. I'm going to be wearing 2 patches simultaneously as I am
> prescribed 125mcg/per hour (1x100mcg and 1x25mcg), is this common?
Finally,
> everyone has motioned the transparent dressing available from the
> manufacturer, I doubt they will provide them in NZ but can I just use
> Duoderm or some other water proof sticky stuff or does the outside of the

> patch have to breathe?
>
> Sorry for all the questions but Duragesic is not a common drug in New
> Zealand and I know nobody else who has any experience with them.
>
> Cheers.......Gixxer
>
> "OldGoat" <oldgoatmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:m9Vhf.1662$NW2.600@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Dear Tia,
> >
> > I hope this is going the right way, it was hard to tell if it was Tia
or
> > Achilles. Those babies are a pain in the *** to keep on, I just hope
> > whoever needs it gets some help from this. Someone many (many) moons
ago
> > in this group told me a great trick for getting then to stick. Wash
like
> > normal, take your time getting good and dried out, then pick your spot.

> > You know it's got to be a fresh spot each time of the meds don't
dispense
> > right and be careful about using one around heat.
> > Get yourself a roll of Duct tape, the silver stuff they used to tape
> > heating ducts together. Now wrap the duct tape of the hand you would
apply
> > the patch with, but wrap it so the sticky part of the tape is outside.
So
> > essentially you got this big sticky, thing wrapped around your hand,
> > stickum side out.
> > Now since you got your spot picked out start dabbing it lightly with
the
> > stickem on the tape. You'll se all kind of hairs and greasy stuff and
> > ookum coming off on the tape, but that's the idea. If you can spin it
> > around to use the other side that's sticky but without the ook you
> > removed, go for it.
> > You're removing all the dead skin and oils and the occasional straggler

> > hair still lying about. Once you been through both sides of the tape
that
> > should be good enough. You don't want your clean skin messed up by
their
> > adhesive. Strip the patch and slap than sucker on. It'll hold great,
but
> > you still need to watch it around water...especially hot water. BIG
TIME
> > NO-NO
> > I hope this helps and it gets you the relief you been looking for. This

> > patch technology seems to be the next great thing coming down the line
for
> > pain treatment.
> >
> > Wishing you success--og
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tia" <Tia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:11oerron7sjf78c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> how do I use a filter?
> >>
> >> "Achilles" <PleaseDontDroolInMyPool@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:wpJhf.213$tg3.190@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You said that right LA. A "giant crap festival" about sums up from
> >>>> what I
> >>>> see. This "Achilles" guy is horrid.
> >>>
> >>> ...which is very deliberate and will continue until
> >>> Juba ( Ken Padgett ) leaves this group . If you don't
> >>> like it why don't you use a filter so you don't have to
> >>> ever read me again . If you want to know why
> >>> padgett is on the hitlist , read the posts below to
> >>> see what horrid really is .
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <bplkcf$js4$0@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> You still here? Get the *** out bitch or I'll make your life a
living
> >>> hell!
> >>> Remember this: ( what his victim posted )
> >>>
> >>> " After surviving a brutal rape in my
> >>> life, and going through 9 years of counseling and even hypnotherapy,
> >>> when
> >>> abuse is mentioned, I still become enraged."
> >>> And this:
> >>> "I suffer from PTSD. Not from the war, but from a violent rape and
> >>> several
> >>> other things"
> >>>
> >>> ( what kenny posted )
> >>>
> >>> You know you are on the edge all the time and it won't take much to
push
> >>> you
> >>> over. You can't stand up to me and you cannot hide from me. Get the
***
> >>> out
> >>> before I get really nasty.
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <adh9o1$u5h$0@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Kill yourself xxxxxx. You hate yourself. You are always in pain and
> >>> depressed.
> >>> You can't stop hurting others and your life is worthless, so why go
on
> >>> like
> >>> this. Come on. Do everyone a favor and get it over with.
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <bpe2jr$dt...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> I hope you die a horrible death--and soon.
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <aqe1vp$gm...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> I can't make people do what I want. I can only make them wish they
had.
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <aegm9m$628$0@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Go *** yourself xxxxx. That's the only sex you're going to get
anyway,
> >>> because nobody wants your skanky-ass twat. Your doctor is the only
one
> >>> who
> >>> has seen you naked in over 20 years and he probably has nightmares
about
> >>> it.
> >>> Even your gynecologist won't come near you without a gas mask on.
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <bplojs$vf8$0@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Did I forget to mention that I don't give a damn what anyone thinks?
> >>>
> >>> ...and you think I am horrid ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Does he have severe mental illness that he is so mean?
> >>>
> >>> ...no mental illness , unless justifiable anger is a sickness .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not saying that
> >>>> to be mean, I just had to wonder.
> >>>
> >>> ...why wonder when you can ask me directly ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Your new friend
> >>> Achilles
> >>>
> >>>> I hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving LA. Dinner was brought to me so
I
> >>>> was
> >>>> one of the lucky ones.
> >>>>
> >>>> T~
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
.