Re: Good God, What Happened to this Group?
- From: "Cabbi" <cabbi@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:57:52 -0500
Dear OG,
that was the most wonderful and positive thing I've ever seen posted in
this group. I think folks from all "sides" can identify with what you wrote.
For me, I think you saved me weeks, if not months of beating myself up over
some of these posts.
The best I can do is to thank you for your insight. You deserve so much
more. I think you have helped a lot of us get a better view point of what
can and cannot happen in this NG.
Please stay in touch. You are an honest voice of reason and this NG
needs at least one.
Thanks,
Cabbi
"OldGoat" <oldgoatmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ff97f.10396$hP6.2341@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Dear Cabbi,
>
> I share your frustrations and have tried, like you, to point out how
> destructive this is. Many times. It never works, all parties insist the
> others are the problem, and refuse to let the ancient issues that keep
> them at each others throats alive. They are so intent on revenge and
> keeping the hate flowing that they never take a second to look in the
> mirror and ask themselves what they might be doing to fan the flames. They
> can't see it, being so involved with petty arguments. Those who refuse to
> join the fray are, in their minds, blind or at best, fools.
> This has gone on a long, long time. Some of the recycled flames that have
> been reposted are from the mid/late 90's. A whole decade damn near gone
> by, wasted on hate. It's a shame. It is also cyclic, with peaks and dips.
> It is not as bad as it has been, though that's little comfort.
> I would imagine, if one were interested enough, they could Google back to
> the beginning and see who threw the first punch, but what good would it
> do? It's not a fight until someone punches back. After that, there are no
> innocents, anyone joining the fight is as much to blame as the one who
> started it. But revenge won't permit that point of view.
> Don't misunderstand, great wrongs have been committed here. Posting of
> personal information, demands for proof of death from participants
> survivors, untold numbers of scared and agonized people being chased away.
> It should not be tolerated, but in this type of forum, the only effective
> tool is to choose not to read, not to participate. It makes you wonder
> what would have happened if the first person to have their "real life"
> vitals posted here had just ignored it. Or replied with a "You're way off"
> and given it no more attention. You would think a posting of one's vital
> statistics would call for a reply with a great deal of thought behind it.
> Then again, none of us are in a position to judge unless it has happened
> to us, so who can say?
> Even in the midst of all of this flaming and hate, there have still been a
> few success stories that have flourished and outgrown this group, no
> longer needing pain advice. Those few still outweigh all the crap, and
> all, even the feuding parties, contributed to those success stories. When
> it works it is a beautiful thing, a worthwhile endeavor, and fills you
> with a kind of high no medication can give you. You may not be saving a
> life like a doctor or EMT, but you saved part of a life, helped your
> fellow man and no matter how worthless you felt before you hit the on
> switch of your computer, you did something worthwhile before you turned it
> off. Where else can you go and make a difference in somebody's life like
> that? It's worth wading through the muck. The more folks speaking support,
> staying on message, the less volume the mudslides have by comparison.
> Just hang in there and don't bother opening what you can pretty well be
> certain is a flame. If you're bored one day, fine, but you can be sure
> that most of it is the same stuff over and over. If you read a half a
> dozen, you've read them all. There's no rights, only wrongs. Keep the
> volume cranked on the support, when the opportunity presents itself, and
> ignore the noise.
>
> Hang in there--og
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Cabbi" <cabbi@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:11lokt0p720cv57@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Look,
>> I have no creds to criticize anyone. I'm no one's idea of the ideal
>> moderator or leader.
>> But I have a question. What happened to the "support" part of this
>> group? It seems to me there is a lot of type spent on attacking one
>> another, a bit of type dedicated to spreading helpful news to pain
>> sufferers. Yet most of the posts are attacks on other sufferers. When did
>> it become vogue to attack one another regarding their pain, whether it be
>> physical or emotional, in responding to this group? I'm all for more
>> personal posts, but I can't abide blind items of attack from one member
>> or another, simply because we may disagree. That renders this group
>> impotent. All I'm seeing these days is constant sniping and bitching,
>> blaming others for our own short comings. What kind of improvement can we
>> expect from this type of conversation? If we continue to tear away at one
>> another, we won't have an ASC-P. I'm beginning to think that is not such
>> a bad idea. How sad.
>>
>> Cabbi
>>
>
>
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