Re: cymbalta-my nightmare


"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On 24 Jul 2005 17:08:22 -0700, "elis" <coreshadow@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>I've been on Fentanyl patches for many years. I've been on many
>>anti-depressants for "pain" Up until now, elavil was the worst for
>>side-effects. I would have stayed off of them but I started having
>>morning depression because of the Fentanyl patches. It was vivid dreams
>>followed by severe morning depression. So, when I went to the Mayo
>>clinic, a doctor put me on Celexa which helped the morning depression
>>but it didn't do anything for my pain and it caused weight gain.
>>
>>I switched to a new doctor recently and he took me off Celexa gradually
>>which was worse getting off of in long term than the opioids. I've had
>>withdrawal from Opioids but those were physical, not mental and the
>>Celexa withdrawal caused chest pain and all sorts of problems. Well, I
>>finally got off it so I could go on Cymbalta. BIG MISTAKE! At first,
>>I liked it. It decreased my appetite, I had lots of energy although my
>>pain seemed actually worse. This was on 20 mg. Then I started
>>noticing periods of depression that were very dark. They would come
>>and go. My doctor's nurse told me to go up to 40. Well, the
>>depression got so bad that I decided to get off of it. I had only been
>>of the 40 for 3 days and the 20 mg. for less than month. I was told
>>this wasn't an SSRI. My husband did research and found out it was an
>>SSRI plus also affected uptake of morepinephrine and dopamine. There
>>were hundreds of posts about severe problems on Cymbalta. My husband
>>called my doctor about a week ago telling him I was going to get off of
>>it. No one called me back. I got off of it and my life has been pure
>>hell. I've been severely depressed, suicidal ideation, nightmares,
>>anxiety, agressive thoughts which are not like me at all, cold sweats
>>constantly until I am drenched and abdominal cramps.
>>
>>I told my husband that I could not stand to live anymore. We called
>>the nurse again and I have an appointment tommorrow. I went back on
>>it. It is a capsule so I poured some of the granules out so I could be
>>on a lower dose than 20 and I am better. I am still depressed but I
>>don't feel suicidal anymore.
>>
>>I want to just take my Fentanyl but it causes morning depression. The
>>other thing is I have been trying to have a baby via IVF and the doctor
>>said the Fentanyl was okay, it's the anti-depressants that aren't
>>safe.We are going to tell the doctor tommorrow that I want to try to
>>have a baby again. I'm going to get a lecture and I will probably
>>start crying with my state of mind.
>>
>>My husband and I don't have children together and what doctors and most
>>people do not realize is most surrogates want 25,000-50,000 to have a
>>baby for a couple and I am 45 so I have to use a donor for eggs as it
>>is. I spent a lot of more of my fertile years worrying about opioid
>>affects until they came out with info that it is actually it is one of
>>the most safest of all the drugs you can take during pregnancy if you
>>have to take them.
>>
>>I hate how opioids get such a bum rap when there are other drugs that
>>mess with brain chemistry so much more.
>>
>>I was wondering if anyone has figured out some way or something to take
>>(even a herb) that will make Cymbalta withdrawal easier. I think my
>>doctor will just do what he did with Celexa and tell me to go down
>>slowly and that was hell anyway because I ended up in the hospital with
>>cardiac chest pain.
>>
>>Elis
>>
> Interesting, I have not had any of those problems on Cymbalta,
> although it does seem to be robbing me of some initiative. If it is
> truly the Fentanyl that is causing the depression, why not look for a
> different pain reliever as opposed to adding another drug to offset
> the side-effects?
>
> I'll probably catch hell for saying this, but if your are in Chronic
> pain and less the desirable mental state, why on Earth would you want
> to bring a child into this world? Do you have any idea how stressful
> having children can be? Yeah they are great, but not the bouncing
> bundles of joy that they portray on TV. The are a lot of *HARD*
> worker and can cause moments of both sheer joy & grief.
>
> Why not look into being a Foster Mom for infants and do a try before
> you buy. If you have never taken care of an infant 24x7 who doesn't
> really care if you are in pain, tired, or depressed, you have no idea
> how you will react. If you are dealing with the issues you currently
> are an infant will make them at least 3X worse on a continuing daily
> basis. Then they start to walk/run/talk and then it hits 5X.
>
> Be very, very careful what you desire without knowing all of the
> pluses & minuses.
> --



I have to agree here...at 45 ..having a baby by any means...is stressful
enuf....take into consideration your mental state..ie depression,,suicidal
ideation,,etc...and I would hope no fertility specialist would even
considere you ....the good ones do thorough psychosocial evals prior
to...and sorry..but you are not an ideal candidate..

also...there ARE older kids available for adoption..even in the US...you may
want to look into that possibility

good luck..and again..having a baby..however it has to be achieved..is
likely to throw you into the deep water...and then you will have the life of
an infant on your plate as well..


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