Re: Advice about power scooters needed! (followup from April 2005)



That is true in Mass as well and people are constantly parking in the stripped line section. I once countered someone who did that with 'its for the handicap' and their answer was that it was not marked. Well, that is true and I couldn't answer that so said nothing. Wasn't going to explain to an idiot that a wheelchair car needed the space. sigh
Duckie


Carole wrote:

Out here in Washington, there are disabled spaces just for vans and they are marked "van accessible". There are wide stripes next to the parking space so that there is room for the ramp.

Carole


Gwen Love wrote:

Bob, I've ridden in a van with the power side door and ramp for a
handicapped person, and they are really nice. You can get a sign to put on
the outside asking people not to park nearby, but the best bet is to park
over the line where there isn't room for someone to park beside! Good luck
with what you decide.
Gwen



"Robert Green" <ROBERT_GREEN1963@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Kp6dnZ2dnZ0-qYfXnZ2dnWxrbN-dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@xxxxxxxxxx

(I thought I'd follow up on a thread from the past . . .)

"Paul T. Holland" <pholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message


just to clarify for first timers:

Medicare part b covers 80% of the 'predetermined' allowable amount.


'you'

don't pick the model - your doctor writes the order and the vendor


matches

your medical condition with the available - allowable - models that they
'know' will be paid for.


I've been busy E-baying away, and for about $600 total bought a used


Merits

rearwheel powerchair ($350), an Everest & Jennings folding powerchair


($100)

and a Shoprider 3-wheeled power scooter ($150). My doctor knows


absolutely

nothing about scooters so I thought I would take an approach that would be
both practical and educational. It took tracking a lot of auctions,
learning the various E-bay categories and search techniques like "search
within 100 miles of my zipcode" and patience, patience, patience. Did I
mention patience? :-)


It also meant learning the secret code of E-bay auctions:

"Well used" means "ground down to a stump" and
"Like new" means "the severe wear and tear is not obvious"
"Runs grate" isn't mispelt, there's a grating sound when running
"Small stain" means previous owner was incontinent
"Was working when put into storage" means "not working now."

All three came without some necessary parts but they all came with parts
that didn't even belong to them!  For an average cost of $200 per chair,


I'm

not really complaining. I was afraid if we got him a new scooter or


chair,

it would sit unused like the computer or the car we bought him for fear of
"breaking something."


The biggest problem I ran into was people who had invoices for scooters


and

chairs in the $6,000 range who tried to sell their chairs for starting


bids

of $2,000 or more.  While I tried to educate some as to the insanity of
medical equipment costs and how the list prices are wildly inflated to


cover

the discounts demanded by insurers, it was mostly a futile practice. The
seller who got more than $500 for a used chair or scooter was very rare,
indeed. Most auctions ended with "reserve not met." Items were often
relisted three or four times with the reserve price inched lower and lower
each auction.


It's just like used PC's. People think something they bought 7 years ago
for $5,000 should be worth at least $2,500. They are stunned to learn


that

in many cases, they'll be charged money to haul it to a recycling center
because it has virtually no resale value.  I don't think some people
believed me when I said a dead battery was worse than useless because in
many areas you have to pay a recycling fee to dispose of them.  <sigh>

Anyway, once we got the equipment, I set up some benches in the basement


so

we could recondition them.  Since dad's an engineer who's always been a
tinkerer, I thought that having all three used chairs to "tune up" would


be

useful in a number of ways. First I told him we were going to repair them
and resell them, but my real goal was to give him a reason to ride around


in

one and to overcome his aversion to them. I sensed a great reluctance for
him to admit that he needs a wheelchair. He was the same way with his
hearing aid, too.


With a little help from Paul, I called around discovered that the local
Wal-Mart  carries scooter batteries for less than the cheapest place I


could

find on the net. (They weigh a lot and UPS charges are about 2/3 the cost
of the batteries themselves!) I got a couple of deep cycle batteries, we
scraped and repainted the rust, cleaned and oiled all the working parts


and

finally dropped in the new cells.  We were ready to take the first "test
drive."

With the chair and cover off to the side, I stepped on board like a


chariot

driver, expecting to barely move. Instead, I rocketed down the street


like

a shot; it must have been at least 12 mph. Dad's eyes lit up and was as
eager as a little kid to climb on board and take his turn. We remounted


the

seat and he took it up and down the street, over to the neighbors house,


all

around the house and back. I haven't seen him smile like that in a long,
long time. When he dismounted he said he hadn't been out and around in


his

own neighborhood like that for at least 5 years. I could tell he felt he
had just gotten back something that had been lost to him.


With its little horn, headlight and sideview mirror it was like a boy
getting his first bike. I think a lot of the satisfaction came from
bringing an old, dusty scooter that hardly moved back to life. Since my
Dad's gotten older, restoring things has become psychologically important


to

him in a way I didn't realize until recently.  I don't think he ever got
over being forced to retire early.  :-(

So, thanks to all, especially Paul, for their input. We're going to put


the

Merits chair in the basement for his workshop and keep the folding chair


in

case he needs to travel.

The next big issue to resolve is transporting the scooter. I've been
researching all the lifts and ramps available and the options are
overwhelming. I think of all the choices, I'd like to get him something
like a van with a power sliding door and a powered ramp that automatically
extends.


I've seen all the smiling pictures of seniors merrily attaching their


chairs

to swing arm lifts like the Bruno models, but I don't see my Dad doing all
that. I'm afraid if it's too difficult, he'll use it once or twice to


prove

he can, and then just stop. A power sliding door and ramp seem to be


about

the easiest option, and it looks like only vans with lowered floors and
maybe even high tops are the only option that would allow him to drive the
chair into the vehicle. I'm a little worried about side-entry doors


because

of being "parked in."

I'd appreciate people telling me what works for them.  One option I
considered is a back-mounted lift.  But that's got a number of


disadvantages

like fussing with locks, covers, driving a longer vehicle and driving one
with seriously altered driving characteristics as a result of all that
weight on the bumper. The lifting part is turning out to be far worse


than

the chair selection part.  <sigh>

Well, thanks for listening.  Any ideas on the least troublesome way to
transport a 3-wheel scooter will be greatly appreciated!

--
Bobby G.







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