Re: Michael Irvin Disses McNabb


Sheldon Brown 24 wrote:


You fucking rock!


> "Buddude197" <buddude197@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > keveagle wrote:
> >> > We had a rip roaring debate about that the week they released he had
> >> > it. I was really in favor of shutting him down then. There is a doctor
> >> > in Germany who does the surgery exclusively and has 12,000 of them to
> >> > her credit, mostly on soccer players. She estimates the rate of
> >> > pain-free return at 2 weeks. Had he had it then, even if he missed her
> >> > estimate by 2 weeks, he would've been back by now having missed Dallas
> >> > and KC plus the bye week.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Amazing how this went from the 6 weeks the pro surgery crowd said a few
> >> weeks ago and now it's down to 2 weeks ....... name one football player
> >> who
> >> has come back in 2 weeks from this ......
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hey Kev, don't blame me. They published a 3 page article about it in
> > the PDN about a week or 2 ago. The doctor has performed over 12,000 of
> > this specific surgery. (Sheldon can you access the article?)
>
>
> Could operation benefit McNabb?
>
> By DANA PENNETT O'NEIL
>
> oneild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ON FEB. 9, Chris Leitch flew to Munich for surgery to repair the sports
> hernia that had plagued him for the better part of a season.
>
> On Feb. 12, he jogged.
>
> On Feb. 14, he ran 5 miles.
>
> And on Feb. 19, he began preseason practice alongside his MetroStars
> teammates.
>
> Eight months and an entire Major League Soccer season later, Leitch has had
> no re-tears, no problems and best of all, no pain.
>
> He is, without sounding too dramatic, cured.
>
> "I feel great," Leitch, a defenseman out of North Carolina, says. "Never
> better."
>
> As Donovan McNabb enters yet another work week with his sports hernia, the
> quarterback insists the pain he is feeling is pain he can stomach. Given a
> recovery period of 6 to 12 weeks, McNabb, understandably reluctant to have
> any sort of surgery, is even more hesitant to undergo a procedure that might
> shelve him for the better part of the Eagles' season.
>
> But what Leitch - and thousands of top-level European athletes and a growing
> number of American soccer players - have learned is that should McNabb's
> injury progress to the point of intolerable, it doesn't necessarily mean the
> end of the quarterback's season and subsequently, the end of the Eagles'
> Super Bowl hopes.
>
> There is an alternative.
>
> "Look, I have no interest in this," Leitch says. "I don't know Donovan. What
> he does doesn't affect me, but as an athlete, I have to say if you need
> surgery and you don't have this done, you're cheating yourself. Fly over
> there and be done with it."
>
> Over there would be Munich, home to the Hernia Center and its director, Dr.
> Ulrike Muschaweck, a woman who has revolutionized sports hernia repair.
> Using a procedure she developed called Minimal Repair Technique, athletes
> are returning to competition in 10 days to 2 weeks.
>
> That's full competition with no limits, no restrictions and best of all, no
> re-tears. Her recurrence rate is an astonishing .002 percent.
>
> Though many of Muschaweck's patients play professional soccer - it is, after
> all, Europe's version of the NFL - she says it doesn't matter what sport her
> patient plays because sports hernias affect motion. Contact doesn't alter
> the injury.
>
> "It doesn't matter what they do - basketball, football, soccer, hockey,"
> Muschaweck says, taking a break from her typical five-surgeries-a-day
> schedule last week. "After about 2 weeks, they can return. That's it. No
> risk."
>
> The reality is, at some point McNabb will need surgery. Sports hernias don't
> go away. They must be surgically repaired.
>
> They can, however, get worse as the internal organs that are pressing on the
> abdominal wall go from a partial to a full tear.
>
> "You can't say exactly how fast, but yes, they do get worse," says
> Muschaweck's associate, Dr. Angie Everhorn. "These are pretty tough guys who
> can play through the pain, but the sooner you come and have this done, the
> sooner you're OK for the rest of the season."
>
> During traditional hernia surgeries, doctors insert a mesh to help bond the
> muscle to the bone. It's a rather simple procedure but nonetheless requires
> a fairly lengthy recovery period.
>
> Muschaweck, a hernia specialist of 12 years who tailors her surgeries based
> on a patient's age, occupation and needs, doesn't use mesh with athletes,
> preferring instead to keep the elasticity between the muscle layers after
> surgery. Instead Muschaweck only opens the defected area, leaving the
> surrounding muscle tissue intact.
>
> Muschaweck also pays close attention to the genitofemoral nerve, which often
> is a source of hernia pain and, and if necessary removes part of it.
>
> Afterward each layer of muscle is sutured separately, allowing for a less
> painful and speedier recovery.
>
> "We don't operate on the intact structures; only the defect," Muschaweck
> explains. "That's the secret, minimizing the operating technique. It's only
> a small area that's causing the pain, so there's no need to open something
> more."
>
> If it sounds simple, it sort of is. The reason no one in the United States
> is going this route is that, unlike Europe, doctors here are only starting
> to recognize and diagnose sports hernias with regularity. Muschaweck, on the
> other hand, has more than 12,000 hernia repairs on her resume.
>
> In 1994 Brian Baldinger, the former Eagle and current Fox analyst, suffered
> a groin pain like he'd never experienced before. No one could tell him what
> was wrong. Finally he received a diagnosis, athletic pubalgia. The term
> sports hernia hadn't even been coined in this country.
>
> "In my opinion, the pain sometimes is misunderstood," Muschaweck says.
> "Doctors don't know the reason of the sportsman's groin [her term for sports
> hernia]. If you know the reason, you handle it. It's over. There's no more
> pain, no risk for a new hernia."
>
> Baldinger underwent traditional hernia repair, putting him out of commission
> for nearly 3 months.
>
> Told of Muschaweck's procedure, Baldinger was dumbfounded.
>
> "That's amazing," Baldinger says. "Sure I would have tried it, but I can see
> where people might think, 'Wait, everyone else says 6 weeks and now they're
> saying 2 weeks.' It sounds like you're going to see... someone who's not
> even a real doctor."
>
> His is not an unusual reaction. It all does sound too good to be true, like
> some sort of infomercial of false promises.
>
> Leitch understands the skepticism.
>
> He wasn't immediately sold, either.
>
> Plagued by groin pain through the entire 2004 season, Leitch knew he had to
> do something when the pain resurfaced prior to training camp in 2005.
>
> He spoke with his athletic trainer, John Gallucci, who offered a solution.
> During the offseason, Gallucci was one of a number of MLS medical personnel
> to attend a MLS Medical Conference in Los Angeles where Muschaweck made a
> presentation. Impressed, Gallucci spoke at length with Muschaweck and
> learned more about her procedure.
>
> "In Europe she does basically all your big-time clubs," says Gallucci, who
> recently wrote an article for the National Athletic Trainer Association's
> News. "She's really incredible."
>
> Hesitantly and with Gallucci alongside him, Leitch flew to Germany where
> Muschaweck gave him an ultrasound - just like the ones used on pregnant
> women - and immediately found the hernia.
>
> "I was a little sketchy," Leitch says. "I was the first American to go over
> and do this and if it's my body having surgery, I'm going to worry. I
> couldn't understand why in the U.S. it took months to recover and she was
> telling me I'd be back in days. I thought, 'There's no way. It's not
> possible.' Even my orthopedic surgeon was like, 'Seven to 10 days? I don't
> know about that.' "
>
> But then Leitch saw the wall of photographs, patients of Muschaweck's who
> also happened to be among the best soccer players in the world. To
> soccer-phobic Americans the photos would be meaningless. To Leitch, a former
> Ohio Player of the Year, it was like walking the hallways of Canton or
> Cooperstown.
>
> Those photos, plus his own research, reassurance from Muschaweck and that
> .002 recurrence rate gave Leitch the courage for the leap of faith.
>
> "I remember the day before the surgery, I was walking down the hall with a
> guy from a premiere league over there," Leitch says. "We were laughing at
> the idea of playing in 10 days because it just hurt so much.
>
> "But right after we got out of surgery, we walked around Munich. The next
> day, I was pedaling a stationary bike. By the third day I was jogging and
> around Day 5, I ran 5 miles."
>
> Leitch, who played every MetroStars game this season and logged the
> second-most minutes (2,344) on his team, has started a pipeline of American
> soccer players to Munich. He convinced his friend, DC United forward Bryan
> Namoff, to meet with Muschaweck. Namoff had surgery on both sides of his
> abdominal wall in July and returned to play in early August. Chivas United
> forward Matt Taylor missed only seven games after his procedure this season,
> and on Aug. 14 Ante Razov followed his teammate's flight to Munich.
>
> The league's fourth all-time leading scorer, Razov came back to work on
> Sept. 3.
>
> "I had surgery on my groin last October and then the pain came back," says
> Razov, who's been plagued by some sort of groin pain for the better part of
> 15 years. "The first surgery I had there was 3 months of unnecessary
> waiting. Now I feel 100 percent normal. This is a no-brainer. I was ready to
> come back even earlier. We just didn't have a game."
>
> Muschaweck hopes it's just a matter of time before other American athletes
> follow the trail blazed by the soccer players.
>
> But she needs another guinea pig, another Leitch who is willing to become
> the first American non-soccer player to take the leap. It's a tough sell. In
> this country soccer still doesn't get the respect it does in Europe and so
> the natural skepticism of the surgery is only heightened by the fact that
> Muschaweck's wall of honor doesn't include an NFL or NBA or MLB face (though
> it does include hockey's Dominik Hasek).
>
> "If it were someone like David Beckham, I think that would help," Baldinger
> says.
>
> How about a Donovan McNabb?
>
> "After the first successful American soccer players, I'm seeing more and
> more," she says. "Nobody believed this before. Now they believe."
>
> http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/12938754.htm

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