Re: OT: 11 Lies In "An Unconvenient Truth"

who'sthat wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:29:38 -0700, froggy_loves_heddley@xxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 13, 4:06 pm, who'sthat <whost...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:37:38 -0700, froggy_loves_hedd...@xxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 13, 12:55 pm, who'sthat <whost...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:02:16 -0700, froggy_loves_hedd...@xxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 13, 11:58 am, Tony Giacometti <TonyGiacome...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Galen Boyer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, foster...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
This list is shown to students in England before they are allowed to
view it in a classroom:
* The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence
global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that
this is not correct.
* The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that
rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court
found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2
lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
* The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests
that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert
had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events
to global warming.
* The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this
was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept
that this was not the case.
* The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned
due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread
the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a
particularly violent storm.
* The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf
Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was
that this was a scientific impossibility.
* The film blames global warming for species losses including
coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to
support this claim.
* The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt
causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland
will not melt for millennia.
* The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting,
the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
* The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the
displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea
levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years
and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
* The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation
of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable
to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a
false claim.
Scientists all over the world are saying global warming is happening.
But, I'm glad that you are able to refute some of the claims in the
fight against it. Still the refutation of some of the claims does not
refute the fact that it is happening to the world we live in.
AND there are scientists that are saying its happening but the cause isnt
us.
gore is a politician, politicians lie, do you trust politicians?- Hide quoted text -
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For the poster who claimed the U'S is the dirtiest country in the
world, brother, you need to travel some. CO2 is not a pollutant and
it's not dirty. Try going to any major city in India or China if you
want to see pollution. Go to Mexico City. I've seen the air in
Kuala Lumpur when you could not see the Petronis Towers from a half
mile away.
The ONLY reason humans are being blamed for gloabl warming is because
nothing else on Earth pays taxes.
You're a very good little lemming.
Now repeat after me:
And the war in Iraq was justified.- Hide quoted text -
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I would say you have many more lemming like qualities than I. Nothing
can dissuade you from following the King Lemming, Al Gore. No matter
how many times it is shown that evidence is faked, that the media is
manipulating the truth you still bow down to the King. All hail AL.
Like the hockey stick being shown to be false. Like the fact the only
a small percentage of the worlds glaciers are being monitored and many
of those are advancing. Like the picture of the polar bears
supposedly stranded on the ice due to global warming that was later
revealed to be years old and originally captioned as " Mother and cub
playing on the ice". Like the fact that a large percentage of
temperature monitoring station around the U.S. are compromised by
being placed in parking lots, next the air conditioner condensors and
other heat sources.
Follow your King right into the sea, just leave me out of your
delusions.
How many times have I quoted Gore?
The basic premise is proven. Sure they got some things wrong and yes
some numbers have been updated. That happens to EVERY documentary as
time goes by. But NO ONE disputes the idea of global warming other
than bush and those with the same IQ.

a small percentage of the worlds glaciers are being monitored
Show me that one
Here you go. http://nsidc.org/data/docs/noaa/g01130_glacier_inventory/
Scroll down to the overview, 5th paragraph. Here it is in case you
dont want to check out the link. "Measuring glaciers is a labor
intensive process that employs traditional field surveys in hard-to-
access and sometimes hazardous places. For this reason only a small
percentage of the world's glaciers have been measured at all."

That doesn't prove that the numbers used in the movie are the same
ones. You haven't proved the numbers used were not a accurate
representation of the facts
Like the picture of the polar bears supposedly stranded on the ice
Show me the caption that said that.
Here you go, straight from the original photographer himself. I did
paraphrase her caption, but the idea is the same.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/02/the_polar_bear_.html

The picture was an allegory. How hard is that for you to understand?
The photo was used without permission and without remuneration to the
original copyrighted photographer

Follow this link to the New York Times and go to the bottom of page 1
where they had to issue a correction about who took the photo and
where it was taken,
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/03/science/earth/03climate.html?ex=1328158800&en=3a845c84e21df549&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


large percentage of temperature monitoring station around the U.S. are compromised by
being placed in parking lots, next the air conditioner condensors and other heat sources
Site that one- Hide quoted text -
Go here. http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/weather_stations/ Nearly 3
dozen faultily placed temperature monitoring stations. with links to
many more. Or try this one for more examples of badly place temp
stations. http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.7.1
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Prove these are the ones they used in the movie.

You've done nothing to disprove the movies claims or the truth about
global warming.
But it looks like you have a place waiting on bush's science team.


LOL. Yeah...the first paragraph in that second link shows all. The guy doesn't even comprehend the idea of natural warming and cooling cycles. Doesn't understand that nature will warm the planet from natural CO2 sources like forest fires (started by lightning), volcanoes and methane release. Doesn't understand that what nature takes 1000 years to do, we've done in 17 years (ie raise the C02 content of the atmosphere by 30 PPM). Doesn't understand that for the past million years, the cooling cycle would begin at 300 PPM and we're currently over 400 PPM and climbing. Doesn't understand that the Little Ice Age was a regional (European) phenomenon, not a global one and blips such as that are to be expected (especially given the nature of the Gulf Stream).

It's amazing the conclusions some of these guys try to think up. If it wasn't such a serious issue, it'd be funny.

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or the climate will do it for us.
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  • Re: OT: 11 Lies In "An Unconvenient Truth"
    ... found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 ... that this has been caused by global warming. ... due to disappearing arctic ice. ... Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was ...
    (alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots)
  • Re: OT: 11 Lies In "An Unconvenient Truth"
    ... found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 ... that this has been caused by global warming. ... due to disappearing arctic ice. ... Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was ...
    (alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots)
  • Re: OT: 11 Lies In "An Unconvenient Truth"
    ... found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 ... that this has been caused by global warming. ... Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was ... "Measuring glaciers is a labor ...
    (alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots)
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    ... AND global warming is actually a good thing, ... The Chad government seems to think it's GCC. ... due to disappearing arctic ice. ... got some evidence to support your claim? ...
    (alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots)
  • Re: OT: 11 Lies In "An Unconvenient Truth"
    ... AND global warming is actually a good thing, ... The Chad government seems to think it's GCC. ... due to disappearing arctic ice. ... got some evidence to support your claim? ...
    (alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots)
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