Re: OT: 11 Lies In "An Unconvenient Truth"

froggy_loves_heddley@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Oct 13, 5:57 pm, who'sthat <whost...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:29:38 -0700, froggy_loves_hedd...@xxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 13, 4:06 pm, who'sthat <whost...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:37:38 -0700, froggy_loves_hedd...@xxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 13, 12:55 pm, who'sthat <whost...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:02:16 -0700, froggy_loves_hedd...@xxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 13, 11:58 am, Tony Giacometti <TonyGiacome...@xxxxxxxxx>
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Galen Boyer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, foster...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
This list is shown to students in England before they are
allowed to view it in a classroom:

* The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro
evidence
global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede
that this is not correct.
* The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves
that
rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years.
The Court found that the film was misleading: over that
period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises
by 800-2000 years.
* The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and
suggests
that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's
expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute
one-off events to global warming.
* The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims
that this
was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to
accept that this was not the case.
* The film claims that a study showed that polar bears
had drowned
due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore
had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and
this was because of a particularly violent storm.
* The film threatens that global warming could stop the
Gulf
Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's
evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
* The film blames global warming for species losses
including
coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any
evidence to support this claim.
* The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could
melt
causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that
Greenland will not melt for millennia.
* The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is
melting,
the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
* The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m
causing the
displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is
that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the
next hundred years and that there is no such threat of
massive migration.
* The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the
evacuation
of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are
unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this
appears to be a false claim.

Scientists all over the world are saying global warming is
happening. But, I'm glad that you are able to refute some of
the claims in the
fight against it. Still the refutation of some of the claims
does not refute the fact that it is happening to the world we
live in.

AND there are scientists that are saying its happening but the
cause isnt us.

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For the poster who claimed the U'S is the dirtiest country in the
world, brother, you need to travel some. CO2 is not a pollutant
and
it's not dirty. Try going to any major city in India or China if
you
want to see pollution. Go to Mexico City. I've seen the air in
Kuala Lumpur when you could not see the Petronis Towers from a
half mile away.

The ONLY reason humans are being blamed for gloabl warming is
because nothing else on Earth pays taxes.

You're a very good little lemming.

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I would say you have many more lemming like qualities than I.
Nothing
can dissuade you from following the King Lemming, Al Gore. No
matter how many times it is shown that evidence is faked, that the
media is
manipulating the truth you still bow down to the King. All hail AL.
Like the hockey stick being shown to be false. Like the fact the
only a small percentage of the worlds glaciers are being monitored
and many
of those are advancing. Like the picture of the polar bears
supposedly stranded on the ice due to global warming that was later
revealed to be years old and originally captioned as " Mother and cub
playing on the ice". Like the fact that a large percentage of
temperature monitoring station around the U.S. are compromised by
being placed in parking lots, next the air conditioner condensors and
other heat sources.

Follow your King right into the sea, just leave me out of your
delusions.

How many times have I quoted Gore?
The basic premise is proven. Sure they got some things wrong and yes
some numbers have been updated. That happens to EVERY documentary as
time goes by. But NO ONE disputes the idea of global warming other
than bush and those with the same IQ.

a small percentage of the worlds glaciers are being monitored

Show me that one

Here you go. http://nsidc.org/data/docs/noaa/g01130_glacier_inventory/
Scroll down to the overview, 5th paragraph. Here it is in case you
dont want to check out the link. "Measuring glaciers is a labor
intensive process that employs traditional field surveys in hard-to-
access and sometimes hazardous places. For this reason only a small
percentage of the world's glaciers have been measured at all."



That doesn't prove that the numbers used in the movie are the same
ones. You haven't proved the numbers used were not a accurate
representation of the facts

I never once mentioned the movie. I said a small pecentage of the
worlds glaciers are monitored, you asked for a cite, I gave you one.
Have much trouble comprehending what other people write? When people
claim that the glaciers are melting, I want to know how many they have
looked at. You take what they say as gospel. There are hundreds of
thousands of glaciers worldwide, over 100,000 in Alaska alone
according to the USGS. But you wouldn't know that would you? You've
been told that some glaciers are melting and you have no idea at all
how many there are or how many are advancing.


Like the picture of the polar bears supposedly stranded on the ice

Show me the caption that said that.

Here you go, straight from the original photographer himself. I did
paraphrase her caption, but the idea is the same.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/02/the_po...

The picture was an allegory. How hard is that for you to understand?

You asked for proof the photo was not captioned properly, I gave you
that. You willingly go along with a duplicitous media that
manipulates the facts. The photo was presented as fact showing that
polar bears are in danger due to global warming. Never mind that a
polar bear can easily swim 100 miles or more. Never mind that the
photo was taken years earlier at an entirely different location than
was stated and that the bears were in no danger, Oh no, lets say
whatever we want to try to make a point. And when it comes out we are
lying we will call it an "allegory"





The photo was used without permission and without remuneration to the
original copyrighted photographer

Follow this link to the New York Times and go to the bottom of page 1
where they had to issue a correction about who took the photo and
where it was taken,
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/03/science/earth/03climate.html?ex=132...

large percentage of temperature monitoring station around the U.S.
are compromised by being placed in parking lots, next the air
conditioner condensors and other heat sources

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Go here. http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/weather_stations/ Nearly 3
dozen faultily placed temperature monitoring stations. with links to
many more. Or try this one for more examples of badly place temp

stations.http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?con...

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Prove these are the ones they used in the movie.

You've done nothing to disprove the movies claims or the truth about
global warming.
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Once again, I never once mentioned the movie. I told you there were
problems with temperature monitoring stations, you asked for proof, I
gave it to you. You dont care that faulty reading are driving the
temperature charts, you don't care that the science is faulty and that
the method is flawed. All you care is that King Gore told you to quit
living the way you do, to get a smaller car, to run your AC less or
heat your home less. All while Al flies all over the world on private
jets, has 2 homes much larger and wasteful than anything we ordinary
citizens own. he has SUv's but explains thise away as belonging to
the "family" but expects you and I to drive a Geo.Al Gore is probaly
in the top 1/10th of 1 % of the worlds most energy using persons . He
cares not for the environmental impact of his heated swimming pool,
that used more natural gas in one month than my house used in a year.
His only care is that he and his ilk gain control of the US economy by
scaremongering the populace into buying in to his gloabl warming
bull***. He could not rule by winning an election so now he will try
to rule by environmental deception.

Once again I say the only reasons humans are blamed for global warming
is that nothing else on earth pays taxes. The earths climate has
always changed, it will never stop and we cant stop it.

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/paying-dearly-to-hear-gores-climate-story/2007/09/20/1189881602765.html

hey, don't let the facts get in the way of the truth!
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