Re: Bill Maher's New Rules - Valerie Plame

JJC wrote:

Barnabas Collins wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:20:24 -1000, Kurt_Russell
<Kurt_Russell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Barnabas Collins wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:01:49 -0400, JJC <jjc@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Do we wait until the enemy has an "equal" chance to kill us?

Or do you advocate that I take them out before they become
an equal threat?
You take them out when you know 100 % it is the enemy you're
aiming at. You can't take out an entire city to get that
enemy......that is how innocent civilians got killed on
9/11 and we didn't like then.
go back and do some reading on WW1 & WW2

And just because Hiroshima and Nagasaki and 9/11 occurred doesn't
excuse us taking out the entire city of Tehran.

The object of war is to avoid civilian deeths while getting the
enemy.

No, that's the "new, new definition of war" that we've
fought since 1945.

Look at the results.

Korea - Cease Fire.
Vietnam - surrender.
Gulf War I - Cease Fire.
Gulf War II - Ongoing, but Congress is trying to Surrender.

Mao was a murderous dirtbag, but he was a capable student of
War:

"The object of war is specifically "to preserve oneself and
destroy the enemy" (to destroy the enemy means to disarm him
or "deprive him of th epower to resist", and does not mean
to destroy every member of his forces physically). In
ancient warfare, the spear and the shield were used, the
spear to attack and destroy the enemy, and the shield to
defend and preserve onself. To the present day, all weapons
are still an extension of the spear and the shield. The
bomber, the machine-gun, the long range gun and poison gas
are developments of the spear, while the air-raid shelter,
the steel helmet, the concrete fortification and the gas
mask are developments of the shield. The rank is a new
weapon combining the functions of both spear and shield.
Attack is the chief means of destroying the enemy, but
defence cannot be dispensed with. In attack the immediate
object is to destroy the enemy, but at the same time it is
self-preservation, because if the enmy is not destroyed, you
will be destroyed. In defence the immediate object is to
preserve yourself, but at the same time defence is a means
of supplementing attack or preparing to go over to the
attack. Retreat is in the category of defence and is a
continuation of defence, while pursuit is a continuation of
attack. It should be pointed out that destruction of the
enemy is the primary object of war and self-preservation the
secondary, because only by destroying the enemy in large
numbers can one effectively preserve oneself. Therefore
attack, the chief means of destroying the enemy, is primary,
while defence, a supplementary means of desroying the enemy
and a means of self-preservation, is secondary. In actual
warfare the chief role is played by defence much of the time
and by attack for the rest of the time, but if war is taken
as a whole, attack remains primary. -- "On Protracted War"
(May 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 156.

Clausewitz defines war:
"an act of violence intended to compel our opponent to
fulfill our will. Violence is the means; submission of the
enemy to our will the ultimate object. As long as the enemy
remains armed, he will wait for a more favorable moment of
action. The ultimate object of war is political. To attain
this object fully, the enemy must be disarmed. Disarming the
enemy becomes therefore the immediate object of hostilities.

JJC


I concur fully!
You did your homework well, you should be proud of yourself.
6 smiley's for you!

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