Re: Al Gore on Florida weather

paul denis wrote:

JJC <jjc@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Here's my understanding of the problem and my position,
convince me I'm wrong:

Start here: http://books.nap.edu//html/climatechange/

Get you self educated on the subject. Then please turn off Fox Noise
Channel and Rush Limbaugh. This is NOT a political debate as these
Government controlled "news" sources would have you believe. They are
just defending the big oil companies that support their dying, and
desperate political party.


liberals are dumber than most 6th graders


Sixth-graders decide that humans aren’t to blame

By Ben Ready
The Daily Times-Call

LONGMONT — Humans don’t cause global warming, a jury of sixth graders at
Trail Ridge Middle School concluded Thursday after hearing opposing
arguments from their peers.

“They’re pretty young for this kind of thinking. They did great,”
paleontology teacher Ken Poppe said after the 40-minute “trial” in his
classroom.

With Earth’s warming accepted as a tenet, pre-teen “lawyers”
and “scientists” debated whether humans have caused it.

Eleven jurors listened intently as prosecutors and defendants flashed
contradictory graphs tracking global temperatures, carbon dioxide levels,
polar ice cap statistics, volcanic activity and sea surface temperatures —
all of which were found Wednesday in the school’s computer lab.

“The earth has warmed and cooled over many years. If it’s caused by CO2, why
haven’t the charts shot up?” Poppe’s son and lead prosecutor Caleb argued
during a rebuttal.

In a climax that sent half the class to its feet and forced the judge to
call for order, opponent Monique Nem slapped a contradictory graph onto the
prosecution’s table.

“We’ve proven you wrong! The CO2 levels have shot up,” she said.

The jury responded more warmly, however, to Caleb Poppe’s response: The
graphic cited a Hawaiian source; Hawaii has volcanoes; volcanoes emit CO2.

In closing arguments, Alexia Hegy said global temperatures actually
decreased in the 1960’s, while the global population rose. Humans cannot be
at fault, she concluded.

With the final word, defense attorney Sarah Steed countered: “It all comes
back to us, the people — not the sun, not the weather. We need to turn off
lights when we don’t need them. Bikes can work. The environment can be
richer.”

Seven of 11 jurors decided humans are not to blame, but everyone agreed
classroom debates make for fun learning.

“It was a hard decision, because both sides made good points,” said student
Samantha Roberts.

Ken Poppe said he let students choose which side of the debate to argue.
Poppe personally believes global warming is cyclical and not affected by
humans, while his Colorado State University student aide David Richards
believes the opposite. Both, however, said they presented both sides
equally to the students leading up to Thursday’s debate.

“What I think is not the issue. It’s what the students dig up and how they
present the case,” Poppe said.

Only one parent questioned Poppe’s decision to hold a global warming debate.
That mother expected him to present Al Gore’s global warming movie “An
Inconvenient Truth” as indisputable facts, Poppe said. After he explained
his neutrality in the classroom, the mom allowed her child to participate
in the debate, he said.

“You don’t understand someone’s position until you can argue it to their
satisfaction,” Poppe said, quoting a famous physicist. “I don’t believe in
Darwinism either, but I can argue it as well as any Darwinist.”

Ben Ready can be reached at 303-684-5326, or by e-mail at
bready@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
.

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