Re: OT - Desktop Linux

In article <9YydnVozO4tlDJPZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"$Bill" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sports Fan wrote:

If it is just undeletable, then use this.
http://www.jrtwine.com/Products/DelFXPFiles/

That doesn't look much like M$ - but will check out.

If it is in use, then trace the service or the application that is using
it, which makes sense.

Why ?

Are you serious?
That's basics of file locking.

I want to delete the file, but let the app using it to continue
using it till it's done.

You make it sound as if UNIX doesn't have file locking or file in use.




You make is sound as if it is an easy thing.

It should be with all of Bill's manpower.

And what's the justification?
Nothing.

That would break thousands if not millions of software packages, games,
drivers, ...etc.

Why would it break anything to gracefully terminate a process/driver that
is screwing up ?

That was NOT what my statement above was referring to.

The app is already broken, you're just keeping it from
breaking the other apps that are running. The later Windoze OS's are
already doing a fair job at catching exceptions and keeping the OS up,
they just need to solidify it.

You can gracefully end tasks and processes in Windows.
Use Ctrl + Shift + Esc to bring up the task manager.
Or Click Start, Run, and then type taskmgr and then click OK.

Are you aware that the installation of some of the drivers in UNIX need
reboot too?
It depends on what driver.

Very rare from my memory.

When was the last time you did install and UNIX OS on modern hardware
with third party drivers?
Check them out.


Developers have no control over it, and they follow the WDM already,
which is, I assure you, much more documented and easier to work with
than any other device driver model that I have seen.

At the top of those developers is the guy in charge telling them what to
work on - start there.


If you say so.

Windows registry is already doing that.
Look in HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive.

But it keeps it in the main registry instead of creating a per user
registry in their home directory.


You are incorrect.
Some of the entries are stored there and the rest if not almost all of
it is stored in %profile%\ under the file named NTUSER.DAT.

Which would be a hack, and subject to problems, if not causing
headaches.
There are several packages out there that do that for you.
One of them was just acquired by Microsoft, and it is said that
Microsoft will be offering that package for free.

It's about time. It's next to impossible to shift apps from disk to disk
when you run out of space. On UNIX, you just move it.

Really?
Funny how it doesn't work with moving Apache's directory.

It is already done.
\ is the base path in Windows and the rest is defined in the path
environment entry just like UNIX.

Doesn't appear to be set that way on mine. But it could be an NTFS thing
and I'm using FAT32 currenntly (for compatibility).

That explains why you are missing most of the what Windows can do.
What are you using FAT32?
I can't find any software package today that requires FAT32 to run.
You're also security-less with FAT32.

Already done.

Look in my registry and see if you can find any absolute paths that don't
start with a drive designator.


That is the software author's mistake.
I can't be done.

Look in the Disk Manager.

For what ?


You asked how to mount a drive in the root path, didn't you?
Look in the Disk Manager.

ANd which disk manager are we talking about ?

What are you running?Windows 3.1?
Windows NT and up ALL had Disk Manager.
If you are running Windows 2000, XP, 2003, it is matter of right
clicking on My Computer and choosing Manage, and then scrolling down to
disk manager.


I hate to sound like a Windows supporter, but the only valid point you
have is restarting Windows for some minor installations and updates.
Files in use problems exist on all platforms and path is virtually the
same, drives can be mounted at will at any mount point or even as a
folder in another drive, not only the root one, and the registry is well
organized.

You obviously haven't been reading closely and I've only scratched the
surface (items which irritate me daily).

So far, most of what you have listed is a result of you living in the
past, using old versions of Windows or missing where to look and what to
do.

Go ahead and list what you have against Windows, and I can assure you
that most of it is because you overlooked something.

There are few things that everyone agrees on, some weird bugs,
irritating restart requirements for minor updates, some unplugged
security holes that existed forever, I am not disagreeing on that but
singling out Windows because of file locking that exists on all
platforms and in fact is by design, for example, shows that you are just
complaining for the sake of complaining. :-)
.

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