Re: that OTHER group - UPDATE

On Mar 15, 2:04 am, Pepe Papon
<hitmeister.at.mindpring.dot.c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT), McBain



<scottham.l...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey folks,
Through the work of Adam and Earl, a few alternatives for accessing
the Google group have been devised and work pretty well in a news
server setting.  One involves using Forte Agent (registered) and the
other Thunderbird.

Basically, the concept is to take advantage of Google Groups email
option.  Newsreaders/Email apps like Thunderbird or Agent allow you to
display emails in a threaded format.  This means that adding the email
you have attached to the Google Group will allow you to receive and
thread messages just like a newsreader.  And you don't have to be on a
web browser to do it.

The best thing is to use a dedicated email address, with Gmail giving
you the most options.  Gmail allows you to use IMAP, which means you
can sync between Thunderbird and Gmail web access.  Also, Gmail allows
you to filter out the NG posts, which creates a folder in Thunderbird,
keeping all of the NG posts away from your other mail.

If you're interested, try downloading Thunderbird and creating a Gmail
account.  Once you're in your Gmail account, you'll want to go into
Settings and click the Forwarding/POP and IMAP tab.  Under IMAP
access, click enable.  Click labels and create a Yankee label.  Then
click Filters and filter all messages that arrive with "[NY Yankees
NG]" in the subject.  This will effectively create a Yankee folder.

Now, follow the Thunderbird directions for Gmail below.  If you want
to use a different email address, simply create that account in
Thunderbird.  You can make the messages in Thunderbird appear as
threads by going to the View menu, clicking Sort By and choosing
Threaded (third from the bottom).

Gmail/Thunderbird directions are below.

To join the group, visithttp://groups.google.com/group/yankeesng

Thunderbird can be found here:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Thunderbird/Gmail directions can be found here:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662

Thanks again to Adam and Earl for doing a lot of legwork and figuring
this out.  We hope some of you will give it try (Seth, I'm looking at
you...).

Thanks.

I can give it a shot, but I'm not clear on how to set up the group
with an alternate email address that I can use with my Agent
newsreader.
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Do you have email in Agent already? If you don't, that's probably a
good thing.

I don't have a registered version of Agent in front of me, but here's
the basic process:

Go to gmail.com and create a new account. Once the account is
created, go into Settings and click the Forwarding/IMAP tab. Towards
the bottom, click the enable IMAP button and apply the changes.

Go into Agent and find where you can add an email account. Your
username for gmail is the entire address. Make sure the account is
set up as an IMAP account, not POP (you can use POP as well but IMAP
syncs better). The incoming mail server is imap.gmail.com. The
outgoing server is smtp.gmail.com. You may or may not have to change
the port #. I don't have that handy as I'm on my phone but its
available in the Thunderbird settings I linked previously.

Once that's configured, visit the google group and request membership
with your new gmail account. We'll grant it. Once it is granted,
enter your account on the group and set your email options to receive
individual emails.

Now, when Agent receives emails, it should thread everything. If not,
there should be a preference for threading.

The one thing I don't believe it will do is stack responses properly
within the thread. It will probably sort by when it was received
rather than who the message was responding to. That's a little
inconvenient, but if this works, at least it will keep the group in a
more usable setting.

I don't think anyone is abandoning this group. I think we all like
the silly arguments to some degree. Otherwise, none of us would have
dealt with it for so long.

Let me know how this works. I know Earl has been messing with it as
well and can probably shed light where I can't.
.

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