Re: Torre rejects offer

lanman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:53:41 -0700, Thermos <cfbltw@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Oct 19, 8:59 am, lanman <xlanm...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:40:18 -0400, Thermos <cfb...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Pepe Papon wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:27:38 -0400, "Thermos" <cfb...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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So long Joe.
Not sure I would have taken just one year, either if I were him.
The money was more than fair...but one year seems like a stunt that allows the Yankees
to say "Hey, we tried."
I am a bit disappointed, if that is the case - low-balling him out of NY isn't exactly
the right way to go about things (not low-balling in terms of money - but in terms of
years)
Between the pay cut and the 1 year, they had to know he'd turn it down. I didn't want him
here for 2007, but this was not the right way to treat the man.
How would you have handled it?
I would have told him right after the series ended that he wasn't going
to be asked back and given him the opportunity to announce that to the
press as he saw fit.
There was obviously a split camp in Tampa, or they would have done
that. They made a very fair, imo, offer based upon performace, or lack
thereof. Do you think Torre will get $7.5+ mil from his next team. Do
you think he'll even get $5mil plus incentives?

I don't think that's remotely relevant. Derek Jeter wouldn't have
received the same contract from the Brewers that he did from the
Yankees either. Pretending that the Yankees are somehow on the same
pay scale as the rest of the league is goofy. The Yankees didn't cut
his pay because of concerns about his salary, they cut his pay because
they knew he wouldn't accept that. Brian Cashman wouldn't accept it
if they did it to him, nor would Randy Levine. There's nothing "fair"
about pretending to make a good faith offer when it is designed to be
rejected.

Of course it's relevant, but if Torre wants to stand on principle and
lose millions in salary - that's his prerogative. While it's true the
Yankees have a liberal payscale, it's designed to bring home a WS
every year.

Well, you've had a big glass of the Steinbrenner KoolAid, then. Derek Jeter and Hideki Matsui are not overpaid because they are so much more likely to bring a world series than their peers. They are overpaid because they are marketable and because the Yankees make a lot of money from the marketing of their team, and that's the same reason Joe Torre was overpaid. He's the same guy he was when the Steinbrenners gave him his last contract. They didn't reduce his salary because the team failed to win a world series, they reduced it to a level they could be assured he would not accept. This is as plain as day.
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