Re: OT: Biggest Liar in the US


"BadgerBC" <neilrichardson3819@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: On Aug 16, 3:23 am, lanman <xlanm...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
: >
: > More often than not, there is not a strong trust between military and
: > civilian leaders because the military understands that politicians and
: > bureaucrats will always put self-interest and party before the good of
: > the military or country. So the mistrust between the current military
: > leadership and the current administration is hardly unique.
:
: Well yes and no. Bitching and grousing about the civvies is a daily
: routine up from top to bottom. OPENLY speaking out is what makes it
: unique. Is there mutual misunderstanding (especially among elected
: officials who never served) and mistrust between uniformed and
: civilians? Of course. However, the level of mistrust is
: unprecedented in our history.
:
:
: >There was
: > little trust between the military and the Clinton administration. The
: > Clinton "doctrine" abused a peace dividend to shrink the military to
: > dangerously low levels, and his foreign policy had us pull out of
: > Mogadishu in disgrace, stand by and watch the Rwanda genocide, but
: > justify the bombing of both Bosnia and Kosovo. The added duties on a
: > smaller force strained the military starting with Clinton.
:
: Agree mostly. Kosovo was a success but the administration was doing
: everything it could to mess it up.
:
:
: His affair
: > with Monica also did not endear him to the military who then
: > considered him a morally bankrupt leader.
: >
:
: I have plenty of friends who were field grade during this period. I
: don't think this was a sticking point (esp when they saw enough flag
: ranks get hit with Article 134 for the same thing which means there
: were plenty that weren't brought up). They were more annoyed with his
: Vietnam record.
:
: > I personally decided to end my military career after Carter who is,
: > imo, not only the worst President of the last century, but also the
: > worst ex-President because he still can't shut his pie-hole and
: > refrain from cozying up to terrorists and dictators. He gets credit
: > for the allowing Islamic fascism to begin to progress to where it is
: > today. Carter was as anti-military as a commander-in-chief can get.
: > For four years he capped military pay increased to 5% while running
: > double digit inflation. He also took away pro-pay for many MOS's and
: > said that soldiers who didn't like it could vote with their feet. I
: > was one that did.
: >
:
: I'm no fan of Carter (and I was in 1-72AR and 2-72AR when the
: administration idiocy dramatically raised tensions along the DMZ to
: the highest levels). However, he doesn't compare with GW Bush who is
: worse than Nixon. And that's saying something. At least Nixon gets
: credit for opening up China.
:

Speaking of Nixon, what did you think of Oliver Stone's "Nixon"? I seem to
remember Henry Kissinger saying "the movie made me look like a real son of a
bitch, but otherwise it was pretty accurate", or something.


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