Re: The Yenta speaks


"BadgerBC" <neilrichardson3819@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: On Apr 19, 9:18 pm, "Erasmus \"The Mannequin\" Brown"
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: > "BadgerBC" <neilrichardson3...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: > : On Apr 19, 6:07 pm, "Erasmus \"The Mannequin\" Brown":
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: > : > "Thermos" <cfb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: > : > : Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown wrote:
: > :
: > : > : > Hey, I liked "The Prince of Tides".
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : Ugh
: > : > :
: > : > Nick Nolte was good. Hanging a Stradivarius off a ledge an' ***.
: > :
: > : Speaking of Nick Nolte, he would've been a better choice for Frank
: > : Costello than Nicholson (He basically reprised his role in Witches of
: > : Eastwick and Prizzi's Honor) in the Departed.
: >
: > Well, those roles were similar in that they weren't remotely alike. For
one
: > thing, AFAIK Frank Costello did not have supernatural powers. ;)
: >
: > Seriously, I think you're reaching a bit. I'm reminded of the time
someone
: > told me that Joe Pesci's Tommy DeVito ("Goodfellas") and Nicky Santoro
: > ("Casino") were the same character. In fact, there are several
significant
: > differences (ambition, impulsiveness, etc.). I haven't seen either
"Witches
: > of Eastwick" or "Prizzi's Honor" in a while so I can't make detailed
: > contrasts. (I do remember the scene in which Nicholson tells one of
them --
: > Cher, I think -- that the waiter has a "big schlong".)
:
: It's sexual metaphors in Eastwick that I recall distinctly (and
: Nicholson's expression in various scenes). And in Prizzi's had plenty
: of his "raised eyebrows" every time Charley was contemplating
: something (and you see the same thing in the Departed).

I'll have to watch those again, but I think you're being a bit nitpicky.

: I'm not
: saying that an actor has to recreate his toolbox every movie. I just
: like them to try something new, but this one reminded me of DeNiro
: saying in an interview that he didn't really have to work hard
: preparing for "Analyze This." And this point isn't that crucial, but
: his Boston accent wasn't that good (though he's better than Damon I
: thought - of all people)
:
Jack's Boston accent wasn't perfect, but Damon??? Are you serious? BTW, I
asked folks from Boston and they told me everybody but Jack was spot-on, but
no serious object to Jack either.

: >
: > Jack was fine in the role -- not that Nolte's take wouldn't have been
good
: > (I recently watched "Who'll Stop the Rain", co-starring Michael
Moriarty,
: > Tuesday Weld, and Richard Masur. All were t'riffic.)
: >
:
: I'd have preferred Nolte portraying Costello like Whitey Bulger.

The character was partly modeled after Whitey, but I don't think they were
going for a pinpoint depiction.
:
: > : Too bad DeNiro had to bow out (I'd recently read that he was Scorsese
: > first choice -
: > : shocking I know).
: >
: > Actually, DeNiro was supposed to play Queenan; when DeNiro left, Martin
: > Sheen took the part.
:
: Queenan? Someone gave me the wrong information. When I heard Sheen
: speak, I thought of JFK (isn't he half-Irish?).
:
: >
: > DeNiro dropped out to direct "The Good Shepherd". Ironically, Leo was
: > originally cast in the lead for that movie, but left to do "The
Departed".
: > The role went to his "Departed" co-star, Matt Damon. Explain that one to
me.
: >
:
: Ya got me! BTW, I know some critics (who obviously don't know a damn
: thing about Angleton) criticized the movie as boring and pummeled
: Damon's portrayal, but I thought he was spot-on.
:
: > : Heck I'd have enjoyed it even more if Walken had: been Costello. ; )
: >
: > Walken is always enjoyable, but if you think Jack was doing Jack
shtick...
: >
:
: Jack shtick has grown tiresome (because he used to be remarkable as an
: actor).

I don't think you're not giving him enough credit. I don't think he phoned
it in at all. Perhaps it wasn't Bobby Dupea or Jake Gittes or Billy
Buddusky, but it wasn't "Anger Management" either. In fact, looking at his
career, his performances are remarkably varied. "Ironweed", "Blood and
Wine", "About Schmidt", "The King of Marvin Gardens", "Carnal Knowledge",
"The Pledge", and the ones I mentioned previously --- he doesn't truly
repeat himself much. I'd say Pacino's worse in that regard. I think "The
Shining" may have been Jack's schtickyist performance (although I've not
seen it in a good while).

Walken shtick is...well refreshing (e.g., the watch scene in
: Pulp Fiction) You tell me how any mortal could've completed that
: scene with just a few takes. How can anyone pull that off without
: laughing? Eh? ; )

Most professionals, I'd say.

:
: > : Is it true that Walken was offered Han Solo role? I saw Spacey do his
: > imitation and it was hilarious.
: >
: > I've no idea. Rumors like that sprout on the internets* like mushrooms.
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