Re: Classic Mussina


"Thermos" <cfbltw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1144432028.426879.152670@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
:
: Dewey wrote:
: > "Thermos" <cfbltw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
: > news:1144420337.726466.191190@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
: >
: > >
: > > Dewey wrote:
: > >> "Thermos" <cfbltw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
: > >> news:1144419083.807446.145200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> > Dewey wrote:
: > >> >> "Thermos" <cfbltw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
: > >> >> news:1144418329.008065.291490@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
: > >> >>
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Dewey wrote:
: > >> >> >> "Thermos" <cfbltw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
: > >> >> >> news:1144357139.300139.262540@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
: > >> >> >>
: > >> >> >> >
: > >> >> >> > Dewey wrote:
: > >> >> >> >>
: > >> >> >> >> > And what evidence do you have for this?
: > >> >> >> >> >
: > >> >> >> >> I've played the game. Not to mention that I've watched pro
: > >> >> >> >> ball for 40 years. Are you saying you cannot tell when they
: > >> >> >> >> go out there are all swinging for the fences and not taking
: > >> >> >> >> pitches and losing patience at the plate?
: > >> >> >> >
: > >> >> >> > There we go. That didn't take long. I thought for sure it
: > >> >> >> > would be a week or two into the season before someone
: > >> >> >> > explained their position with "I played the game". Well, at
: > >> >> >> > least that's settled.
: > >> >> >> >
: > >> >> >> >
: > >> >> >>
: > >> >> >> That has got to be the lamest hand-waving I've read in a long,
: > >> >> >> long time. Ranks up there with "He wouldn't be president if he
: > >> >> >> weren't qualified." Good job.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Here's a clue for you, Dewey. I played the game also. Most of
: > >> >> > us did.
: > >> >> > You're not special in that respect, and it doesn't provide you
: > >> >> > with
: > >> >> > any support for whatever argument you might make here. To the
: > >> >> > contrary, the fact that you resort to "well I played the game"
: > >> >> > as your explanation is a fairly reliable indicator that you're
: > >> >> > full of ***, to anyone bright enough to think analytically.
: > >> >> > Much like "He wouldn't be president if he weren't
: > >> >> > qualified."
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> It's far superior to your counter argument which is, in total,
: > >> >> "you're wrong."
: > >> >
: > >> > If you say so. I'm funny in the way that when someone just makes
: > >> > something up, as you did, and offers no support for it - as you did
: > >> > - I tend to conclude they are full of crap. I know that's
: > >> > peculiar,
: > >>
: > >> Actually, I offered quite a bit of support. IN contrast, your
: > >> argument consists of "you're wrong" and nothing more.
: > >>
: > >
: > > If you say so. I don't recall seeing your analysis of how Mussina's
: > > performance with a lead compares to the average major league pitcher.
: >
: > Why should I? It wasn't the point I was making. I wasn't comparing him
: > to anything - and I did list nearly a dozen games last year when Mussina
: > gave back runs in the half inning following Yankees' scoring. Thus, I
: > proved my point, that Mussina tends to give back runs in the half inning
: > after Yankees score. If you want to compare this to other pitchers, be
: > my guest. It would be interesting to see.
: >
:
: I don't really care about this enough to try to convince you otherwise.
: But you are being very loose with your words here. Cherrypicking a
: handful of events, without context, does not show that something
: "tends" to happen, as you suggest. That's simply not accurate. Its
: cloudy here today. It was cloudy yesterday. That does not demonstrate
: that it "tends" to be cloudy here. Absent context, its meaningless.
: Like I said, I don't much care whether your statements are meaningless,
: but as presented that's what they are.
:
: > > That's the only support that would have any meaning or relevance to
: > > your assertion that he tends to cough up the lead. Nor did you
: > > provide any support for the assertion that doing so causes the
: > > psychological harm to his teammates you claimed it did. I suppose
: >
: > Is it logical to assume that they would be unaffected?
: > Are they robotic
: > automatons? Or are they human beings? Is baseball an utterly unemotional
: > game or is 50% of it 95% mental?
: >
:
:
: I didn't suggest that. That's known as a straw man.
:
:
: > > that's related to your lack of understanding of logic and reason,
: > > demonstrated elsewhere.
: > > Pick up the textbook I referenced. It might help you.
: > >
: > I think you would benefit far more than I. Or you can just go on
: > assuming that baseball players are unemotional, brainless, automatons.
: >
:
: Once again, you are concocting statements and assertions which are most
: certainly not mine and arguing against them. To someone of very low
: intelligence, your technique might be persuasive. To 99% of the people
: reading this, though, its obvious what you are doing. My comments are
: here in this thread in their exact text for anyone who cares to read
: them. I don't need to correct your misstatements of them.
:
: > >> > particularly in this day and age. Next time, I'll just tell you
: > >> > that I played the game .... unless I can think of something even
: > >> > more banal than that, which will be difficult.
: > >> >
: > >> No, stick with "you're wrong." It works so well. Maybe you could even
: > >> toss in a bit of name calling.
: > >
: > > No name calling needed. "I played the game" does quite well to
: > > denigrate you on its own.
: > >
: > As opposed to constantly repeating "you're wrong" without making the
: > slightest effort to provide any contrasting evidence.
: >
: > If I have the time later I will google your posting history to see if
: > you've ever drawn on your own personal experience as an example of
: > anything you've ever posted. I'm sure you haven't. If you had, you'd be
: > a hypocrite wouldn't you?
: >
:
: Well, no. So, in addition to not understanding what logic means, you
: seem not to know what the meaning of this word is either. I'd be a
: hypocrite if I argued that simply because I played baseball my views on
: baseball were dispositive. I most certainly have not done that.
:
"Dispositive?" That's a big word! You must be a smart guy?


.

Loading