Re: Lupica: Crisp and Damon are equal

Keith Willoughby wrote:
> Kenny1111 <kcyanks1@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> Lyford wrote:
>>> "Vinnie S." <none@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:mumqt1tvc3u8faf9e4qdmuind7p9gb1d9d@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/6983/career_by_all_batting_splits.html
>>>> I would not call Crisp, Damon's equal just yet.
>>> By OPS+, he was actually better last year, 119 vs. 113. And when you look
>>> at just the road numbers, Crisp was vastly superior. Damon was extremely
>>> helped by Fenway, and Crisp was extremely hurt by Jacobs. Outside of those
>>> two ballparks, last year, Damon hit .297/.340/.428/.768 and Crisp hit
>>> .328/.375/.529/.904. Big, big advantage to Coco.
>>>
>> If you are looking at OPS+, there is no need to then look at the road
>> numbers. OPS+ is generally park-adjusted.
>
> That's a heck of an assumption - park effects are a very blunt
> tool. It's not neccessarily true that they effect all players equally.

Very fair point. I probably never should've written what I did. My
concerns with just looking at one year splits is that they don't play in
the same road parks, the sample size on the splits, and the fact that
looking only at road numbers ignores half of the player's ABs. Those
other at-bats provide useful information despite stadium influences.
.

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