Re: OT: Alternatives to Outlook Express?

John D. Marinuzzi wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:15:02 -0500, Kenny1111 <kcyanks1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> John D. Marinuzzi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have always wanted to find a browser that had elements from each
>>> program. Opera is most definitely not a better browser than IE. Hate
>>> or love Microsoft, IE handles the mores pages better than the others.
>>> It probably has a lot to do the technologies behind a lot of pages are
>>> from Microsoft, but, whatever, it's not like they keep it a secret. I
>>
>> Or that MS uses its monopoly status as an operating system creator to
>> lock users into other software apart from the operating system, and
>> closes up the code to their standards to make it impossible for others
>> to compete?
>
> This makes the assumption that folks are using their tools to create
> and/or serve the web pages, they don't have to. They do because they

People essentially do have to make things work MS products, because MS
essentially has a monopoly on operating systems, office suites, and
until recently web browsers. And this is the result of a successful
business plan (so far) -- I am not denying that or criticizing them for
being successful, as I explain below. However, they use their success
in some areas (mainly the OS) to attempt lock people into their products
in other areas (i.e., web browsers, active-x, windows media I think).
Since the majority of the population is stuck in a MS world, people who
would rather not deal with MS stuff are still forced to.

> are good...and easy. And they aren't hiding the details from anybody,
> just the code. Shame on them for wanting to make a buck. All they have

Are you saying that MS's policies are fully compatible with open standards?

Also, what is good for MS, and even what MS might be required to do as a
public company with stockholders, does not necessarily coincide with my
interests and society's interests. I'm not criticizing MS for trying to
make a profit; I'm saying that a lot of MS's moves are not beneficial
for the software industry, and for that reason, I prefer to limit my use
of their products as much as possible.

> done is be the driving force behind putting the PC into everybody's
> home. It may have happened anyway, they certainly weren't the first on
> the block, but they got it done...and fast. And in doing so have forced
> the hand of everybody else to be better. Including developers of other

Competition is good. I said otherwise in another post, but from the
other direction -- a growing use of open source products forces MS to
make better software.

> types of systems. They have created a new economic standard in this
> country in how people communicate and do business and have made a lot of
> people, whether through the tools created for their system, or people
> who have to develop theses tools, a lot of money.
>
> Again, shame on them.

Saying "shame on them," and acknowledging that their interests do not
coincide with the public's interests are two different things.

>
> The anti-Microsoft sentiment kills me. They just happen to be the
> winner. If Steve Jobs did it at Apple, everybody would hate him and
> them also.

Who said I like Apple as is?

>
> NUZZI
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