Re: Sheehan Back in Texas for War Protest


"YankFan" <YankFan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Dewey wrote:
> > "YankFan" <YankFan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >>Dewey wrote:
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> >>>"YankFan" <YankFan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >>>>Wisk wrote:
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> >>>>
> >>>>>Here is 2 links you might find interesting:
> >>>>>1.
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> >>>
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/20051203/cm_ucrr/isgeorgebushtheworstpresidentever;_ylt=AiKvXpSd2POS5dzWu5hH4gKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ
> >
> >>>>>2. http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/jobwelldone.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Enjoy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Wisk
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Here's just one of many that you might enjoy. Read on.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200410\SPE20041004a.html
> >
> >>>You couldn't find a link to Fox News even?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Typical liberal mentality when faced with the facts.
> >
> >
> > Facts? Next thing you know, you'll be citing that Newsmax story about
David
> > Kaye's interview with Matt Lauer.
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/
> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-02-un-wmd_x.htm
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1307448,00.html
> > http://www.sundayherald.com/33628
> > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1005-01.htm
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6190720/
> > http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm
> >
> >
> Politics is politics and it's no surprise that some Democrats are
> shading the truth to influence the American people.

Classic. You cite a consistently inaccurate weblog and claim it as "truth."
I cite a halfdozen news sources in addition to the memory hole and common
dreams and you write these off as "Democrats shading the truth." How exactly
are the Democrats influencing Scottish and British newspapers? Did you
bother to click a single link? I doubt it. So much easier just to spout
Rush's talking points. Why don't you try this link and tell us all how this
is just Democrats shading the truth. We're laughing at you, not with you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134625,00.html

Report: No Iraq WMDs Made After '91

Thursday, October 07, 2004


WASHINGTON - The chief U.S. arms inspector in Iraq has found no evidence of
weapons of mass destruction (search) production by Saddam Hussein's (search)
regime after 1991.

But the final report by Charles Duelfer (search) concluded that, although
the weapons stockpiles were destroyed, Saddam's government was looking to
begin a WMD program again.

Click here to read Key Findings Report.

Click here to read Vol. 1.

Click here to read Vol. 2.

Click here to read Vol. 3.

The Bush administration invaded Iraq in March 2003 on the grounds that its
WMD programs posed a threat to American national security.

In his report, Duelfer concluded that Saddam's Iraq had no stockpiles of the
banned weapons, but he said he found signs of idle programs that Saddam
could have revived once international attention waned.

"It appears that he did not vigorously pursue those programs after the
inspectors left," a U.S. official said on condition of anonymity, ahead of
the report's Wednesday afternoon release by the CIA.

U.S. officials also said the report shows Saddam was much farther away from
a nuclear weapons program in 2003 than he was between 1991 and 1993; there
is no evidence that Iraq and Al Qaeda exchanged weapons; and there is no
evidence that Al Qaeda and Iraq shared information, technology or personnel
in developing weapons.

The White House continued to maintain that the findings support the view
that Saddam was a threat.

"We knew the dictator had a history of using weapons of mass destruction, a
long record of aggression and hatred for America," President Bush (search)
said in a speech Wednesday in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. "There was a risk, a real
risk, that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons or materials or information to
terrorist networks. In the world after Sept. 11, that was a risk we could
not afford to take."

Duelfer was presenting his findings Wednesday to the Senate Armed Services
Committee (search). His team compiled a 1,500-page report after his
predecessor, David Kay, who quit last December, also found no evidence of
weapons stockpiles.

The CIA officially released the Duelfer report about 3 p.m. EDT Wednesday on
its Web site, though some of its conclusions were leaked to the media in
advance.

Partisans on both sides of the aisle didn't waste time reacting to Duelfer's
conclusions.

"The Duelfer report is yet another example that there really are two
Americas," said Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif. "There's the one that exists in
the Bush fantasy world, and then there's the real America. In the Bush
fantasy world, they still claim that Iraq was an imminent threat with
weapons of mass destruction."

But Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said the report didn't really offer any new
insights.

"I really don't think (the report) changes anything," Roberts said.
"Everybody made the wrong assumption (about the WMD threat)."

Duelfer concluded that Saddam's regime hoped to convince the world it had
complied with the United Nations resolutions implemented after the first
Gulf War and wanted the U.N. to lift the strict sanctions against the
country.

Duelfer, a special consultant to the director of Central Intelligence on
Iraqi WMD affairs, found Saddam wasn't squirreling away equipment and
weapons and hiding them in various parts of the country, as some originally
thought when the U.S.-led war in Iraq began, officials said.

Instead, the report finds that Saddam was trying to achieve his goal by
retaining "intellectual capital" - in other words, keeping weapons
inspectors employed and happy and preserving some documentation, according
to U.S. officials.

Duelfer and the multi-national Iraq Survey Group (ISG) (search), which also
worked on the report, say it's still not known whether Iraq moved weapons
caches to Syria or other countries.

The ISG is still poring over thousands of official Baathist documents that
have yet to be translated. Currently, some 900 linguists have been hired and
are working in Qatar to get the job done.

About 35 to 50 "old, decayed" chemical and biological shells have been found
in Iraq so far, all of which are said to have been produced in the 1980s.

Saddam was importing banned materials, working on unmanned aerial vehicles
in violation of U.N. agreements and maintaining industrial capability that
could be converted to produce weapons, officials have said. Duelfer also
describes Saddam's Iraq as having had limited research efforts into chemical
and biological weapons.

Duelfer's report will come on a week that the White House has been defending
a number of issues involving its Iraq policy and the war there.

Remarks this week by L. Paul Bremer (search), former U.S. administrator in
occupied Iraq, suggested he'd argued for more troops in the immediate
aftermath of the invasion, when looting was rampant.

A spokesman for Bush's re-election campaign said Bremer indeed differed with
military commanders.

Bush's election rival, Democrat John Kerry (search), pounced on Bremer's
statements that the United States "paid a big price" for having insufficient
troop levels.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the Duelfer report "will continue
to show that he [Saddam] was a gathering threat that needed to be taken
seriously, that it was a matter of time before he was going to begin
pursuing those weapons of mass destruction."

But Vice President *** Cheney (search) said in an Aug. 26, 2002 speech, 6
1/2 months before the invasion, that "simply stated, there is no doubt that
Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is
amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against
us."

On Wednesday, the White House also continued to assert that there were clear
ties between Saddam before the invasion and the Al Qaeda-linked terrorist
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (search).

But a CIA report recently given to the White House found no conclusive
evidence that Saddam had given al-Zarqawi support and shelter before the
war, according to ABC News and Knight-Ridder.

The CIA report did not make final conclusions about a Saddam-Zarqawi tie,
but does raise questions about the Bush administration's assertions that
al-Zarqawi found a safe harbor in Baghdad before the invasion - and raises
questions about whether Saddam even knew al-Zarqawi was there.

During Tuesday night's debate, Cheney said "there is still debate over this
question." But he added: "At one point, some of Zarqawi's people were
arrested. Saddam personally intervened to have them released."

In a speech on Oct. 7, 2002, Bush laid out what he described then as Iraq's
threat:

-"It possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking
nuclear weapons."

-"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet
of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse
chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."

-"Iraq possesses ballistic missiles with a likely range of hundreds of
miles - far enough to strike Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey and other
nations - in a region where more than 135,000 American civilians and service
members live and work. "

What U.S. forces found:

-A single artillery shell filled with two chemicals that, when mixed while
the shell was in flight, would have created sarin. U.S. forces learned of it
only when insurgents, apparently believing it was filled with conventional
explosives, tried to detonate it as a roadside bomb in May in Baghdad. Two
U.S. soldiers suffered from symptoms of low-level exposure to the nerve
agent. The shell was from Saddam's pre-1991 stockpile.

-Another old artillery shell, also rigged as a bomb and found in May, showed
signs it once contained mustard agent.

-Two small rocket warheads, turned over to Polish troops by an informer,
that showed signs they once were filled with sarin.

-Centrifuge parts buried in a former nuclear scientist's garden in Baghdad.
These were part of Saddam's pre-1991 nuclear program, which was dismantled
after the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The scientist also had centrifuge design
documents.

-A vial of live botulinum toxin, which can be used as a biological weapon,
in another scientist's refrigerator. The scientist said it had been there
since 1993.

-Evidence of advanced design work on a liquid-propellant missile with ranges
of up to 620 miles. Since the 1991 Gulf War, Iraq had been prohibited from
having missiles with ranges longer than 93 miles.

FOX News' Ian McCaleb, Bret Baier, Catherine Donaldson-Evans and The
Associated Press contributed to this report.





Some Republicans are
> no better and, as we get closer to the elections, they will shame
> themselves and our party as well. But in the meantime, journalists are
> paid to be unbiased reporters of fact. Not to carry water for the
> Democrats or to insert their own personal bias.
>
> Not only do they incessantly pound the American people with negative
> story after negative story on the war in Iraq, but when their unfair
> coverage reaches a crescendo, they themselves "poll" the American people
> to ask them if they support Mr. Bush and "his" war in Iraq.
>
> They do this and conveniently forget some of that history that they and
> some of the Democrats are trying to rewrite. History, for instance, that
> states that in 1998, Congress passed, and President Clinton signed, the
> Iraq Liberation Act, an act that stated, "It should be the policy of the
> United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam
> Hussein from power in Iraq, and to promote the emergence of a democratic
> government to replace that regime." In December 1998, after ordering
> military action in response to Saddam Hussein's decision to expel the
> U.N. weapon inspectors, Mr. Clinton said, "Other countries possess
> weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there
> is one big difference; he has used them... The international community
> had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked,
> Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again."
>
> Leaving the words of Mr. Clinton aside, many in the media seem to have
> completely or deliberately forgotten about U.N. Resolution 1441 -- a
> resolution that was unanimously passed by the Security Council and
> ordered Saddam Hussein to make a "full accounting of his WMD program and
> to cooperate with inspectors." Further, the resolution warned that there
> would be no more tolerance for concealment or obstruction -- something
> David Kay, head of the Iraq Survey Group, found Saddam was doing on a
> regular basis.
>
> OK, if some in the media will turn their backs on this verifiable
> history, then I have no doubt that they will also seek to squash or
> ignore the testimony of those who would remind the American people of
> the valid reasons for going to war in Iraq -- even testimony by Democrats.
>
> How many in the media who oppose this war will report the words of Sen.
> Joseph Lieberman, Democrat, in speaking recently in opposition to a date
> certain for withdrawal, said: "It is no surprise to my colleagues that I
> strongly supported the war in Iraq... we had in our national interest to
> remove Saddam Hussein from power... He was a ticking time bomb that if
> we did not remove him, I am convinced would have blown up,
> metaphorically speaking, in America's face... The international
> intelligence community believed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
> destruction."
>
> Politics is politics, ratings are ratings, but lies are lies. While some
> Democrats may twist the truth to win the upcoming elections, the media
> has a solemn obligation to report the facts. And it is on that score
> that some have failed themselves, our nation, our troops, and the people
> of Iraq.


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