Re: I miss the 2010 Mets



O'Bob <O'Bob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:15:47 -0700 (PDT), jonathan
<jmerin77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 19, 9:55 pm, Bill <billru...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 4/19/2011 4:31 PM, Element wrote:



If a NYC major league team cannot afford to keep their star home-grown
shortstop, no matter what he wants for a salary, then the owners should
sell the team.
This is not Kansas City or Minnesota. The Wilpons are the worst owners
in baseball. They have no right to own this team.

Even if he's going to want more years (and will get it from someone)
than it makes sense to give him because of the injury risk everyone is
always yelling about? Will you be complaining in 4 years (or less) when
he's still under contract and not the player he was?

Of course. When certain moves can't be made because of the exorbitant
salary the Mets are paying their below average shortstop, the fan base
will be killing Alderson for giving him that stupid contract.

Late reply, sorry. Personally, I'd sign Reyes for 4 years in a blink.
I don't complain about Santana, and I wouldn't be complaining about
Reyes. Nor do I think he'll be below average in 4 years. He's not that
old, and I think his 'injury history' has been overblown.

I know Alderson's rep for valuing OBP above all else, and I think it's
a mistake in this case. Consider...who is going to offer a vastly
improved OBP, not to mention lighting up the offense. Is it more
likely that we'll have a shortstop that will make everyone forget
about Reyes, or that we'll be watching Reyes continue to perform at an
allstar level for another team?

While I concede that the fact that Jose Reyes is 'homegrown' has an
emotional aspect to it in regards to the fan base, it has nothing at
all to do with winning baseball games long term or building a
sustainable organization.

While Alderson has shown a quick trigger finger in ditching players
that have not performed, his team is responsible for signing the
Emaus's and Hu's to begin with. That doesn't register to me as more
significant 'depth' than we had last year with Cora, Barajas and crew
(OK, I admit that we started 2010 with a couple serious millstones in
Jacobs and Matthews).

Anyway, I'm not really enamored of Alderson's rather clinical and
unattached approach in this particular case, especially if it involves
letting Reyes go for the sake of OBP, or in anticipation of some
injury or slowdown that hasn't happened yet. It seems more
shortsighted than prescient.


The real problem with letting Reyes go, IMO, is the fact that he is
nearly impossible to replace, despite his short comings. Joe Morgan,
this guy is not. His OPS, and OBP is is too low for the accolades he gets. He
gets picked off base far too much. Hos K the other night to a series of
changeups seems a pattern of vernability to for him that has never been
corrected, although Greg Maddax made a carreer of that kind of pitch.

But the fact is that very few SS's in baseball plays to his level.

Ruben
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  • Re: I miss the 2010 Mets
    ... shortstop, the fan base will be killing Alderson for giving him ... I'd sign Reyes for 4 years in a blink. ... and I think his 'injury history' has been overblown. ... I know Alderson's rep for valuing OBP above all else, ...
    (alt.sports.baseball.ny-mets)
  • Re: I miss the 2010 Mets
    ... shortstop, no matter what he wants for a salary, then the owners should ... The Wilpons are the worst owners ... I'd sign Reyes for 4 years in a blink. ... I know Alderson's rep for valuing OBP above all else, ...
    (alt.sports.baseball.ny-mets)
  • Re: Minor legue records:
    ... history, the Mets have never really had a shortstop who could hit, and ... Reyes to have a .340 OBP at least. ...
    (alt.sports.baseball.ny-mets)
  • Re: Minor legue records:
    ... He only topped .350 in OBP once. ... The other one can be Reyes, ... he certainly increased his walk rate as time ... He works the pitchers better, ...
    (alt.sports.baseball.ny-mets)
  • Re: O.K.
    ... contract and provide the Marlins with a starting shortstop in return. ... This leads me to the Mets and Jose Reyes. ... FMart and Reyes, I would definitely have to consider it. ...
    (alt.sports.baseball.ny-mets)