Re: Article re the Mets' failure to trade for Victor Martinez

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:30:41 -0400, O'Bob wrote:

I have trouble believing that the inept, inarticulate Omar that
floundered so badly with the press recently can suddenly become a
sharp, composed negotiator. And his recent history bears that out.

What arw we all living in fantasy land because the team is having a subpar
season!

So you want to keep Omar? I think you may be in the minority at this
point, bud. (And not sure what any of this has to do with fantasy
land).

Who the hell negotiated the Santana deal?

Arguably, the GMs for the Yankees and the Red Sox. I'm not trying to
be facetious here, but would the Mets have landed him if both other
teams hadn't mysteriously bailed?


No - it wasn't arguably the GM's for the Red Sox or the Yankees. That
is the part of this where your letting your emotions run away with you.
It was Omar who negotiated that, and the Beltran signing, and the
Delgado trade, and the Pedro deal, and the Maine trade and the Perez
trade, and the Reyes and Wright renogtiations....etc etc

and all of a sudden he's a dunce?


Oh - and BTW -
put this in you
pipe and smoke it.... the last two trades with the Indians made us look
like complete asses....

See Roberto Alomar and Carlos Beagra.

Maybe the Indians know something here we don't....or maybe the Wilpon's
do.

Ruben

Or maybe the Red Sox do, who knows? It's always a gamble.


Those weren't gambles...Clevland fleeced us.

Victor Martinez had 5 hits and 4 RBIs in his Red Sox debut today, but he
could be on the DL tomorrow. Red Sox management usually has good
judgement, but I guess we'll eventually see if he's an Alomar or an
Ibanez. Cliff Lee could end up being a huge bust for the Phillies too.

and by next year the Indians probably and probably correctly believe his
knees are going to give out.



Who do you see as catcher or first base for the Mets next year? Does
Murphy play 1B every day? Any good catchers becoming available for
2010?

I'm honestly curious about what anyone thinks about those questions.
V.Martinez seemed to me, and many others, to be a worthwhile option,
especially at $7 mill per year.

Martinez is a 30 year old catcher moving to first base and no Jonny Bench.
It is likely that by 2010 he'd be another old man with a big contract on
the DL or playing hurt half the season.

Asd for asking those questions, your two years late.

And he would have afforded some leeway for Daniel Murphy. Do the Mets
gamble on Murphy as full-time 1st baseman if he's hitting .250 with
relatively little power? Very risky, but no way to move him. If
VMartinez were available to platoon when necessary, the Mets could have
hedged that bet as well.

$7 mill for Martinez isn't insignificant, but it should have made
economic sense for the Wilpons, considering the alternatives.

The one that got away was Nick Johnson

Ruben
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