Re: Is Santana A Crybaby?

On Jun 29, 11:29�am, "Robert" <floy...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 2008-06-29 09:39:26 -0400, "Deja Vu" <wlastn...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:

Last two losses, here's what he had to say:

After a David Wright error kept an inning alive resulting in a grand
slam:

"You've just got to make those routine plays."

Wright gracefully accepted the criticism saying "I've got no problem
with
that. I have to make those plays." He could have said: "Yeah, like you
have
to get the opposing pitcher out, especially an American league pitcher
who
never bats."

After yesterday's loss:

"I cannot go out there and do the things that my teammates have to do.."
Yeah, but you can do the things you have to do, like get the opposing
pitcher out and give up less than three runs in six innings.

No, he'd be a crybaby if he didn't have an ERA of 3, and wasn't tied for
the league lead in strikeouts. And since his ERA of 3.01, mathematically,
is based on nine-inning stints, how often is he giving up 3 runs or more
in six innings?

As for getting the opposing pitcher out, is there any evidence he's any
worse, or even less lucky, than any other pitcher? What pitch would you
have thrown to that guy from Seattle, to guarantee an out?

Glavine was a crybaby when he made similar statements, but he didn't much
care about anything but that 300th win.

Santana has never, as far as I know, failed to bring, and keep, his team
within a reasonable chance of winning with halfway decent defense and
offense. Unfortunately the Mets have been largely sub-decent on both.

I'd be crying if I were the starting pitcher and looked at my teams line
up after position 4. It's a MESS.
Basically, the opposing pitcher has to work for 3 innings and that's it..

This is a sorry ass line-up right now. Hopefully, Church returns to form.
Alou? Hello. Is anyone home?

He also said after the game how the ump blew some calls, and his job is to
keep his team in the game with a chance to win. WRONG! When his team is
going bad his job is to shutout the other team if necessary. Randy Johnson
said the same thing while with the Skanks and got roasted for it.

He has good cause to feel those things, but you don't complain out loud
about it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

LOL, even when he shuts the other team down he loses. He is doing his
job on a regular basis. His numbers are evidence that he is. But too
many others are not. And their numbers reflect that as well.

David
.

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