Re: Is Santana A Crybaby?


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"Phil" <phil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2008062910324916807-phil@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On 2008-06-29 09:39:26 -0400, "Deja Vu" <wlastname@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

Last two losses, here's what he had to say:

After a David Wright error kept an inning alive resulting in a grand slam:

"You've just got to make those routine plays."

Wright gracefully accepted the criticism saying "I've got no problem with
that. I have to make those plays." He could have said: "Yeah, like you have
to get the opposing pitcher out, especially an American league pitcher who
never bats."

After yesterday's loss:

"I cannot go out there and do the things that my teammates have to do."
Yeah, but you can do the things you have to do, like get the opposing
pitcher out and give up less than three runs in six innings.

No, he'd be a crybaby if he didn't have an ERA of 3, and wasn't tied for the league lead in strikeouts. And since his ERA of 3.01, mathematically, is based on nine-inning stints, how often is he giving up 3 runs or more in six innings?

As for getting the opposing pitcher out, is there any evidence he's any worse, or even less lucky, than any other pitcher? What pitch would you have thrown to that guy from Seattle, to guarantee an out?

Glavine was a crybaby when he made similar statements, but he didn't much care about anything but that 300th win.

Santana has never, as far as I know, failed to bring, and keep, his team within a reasonable chance of winning with halfway decent defense and offense. Unfortunately the Mets have been largely sub-decent on both.


I'd be crying if I were the starting pitcher and looked at my teams line up after position 4. It's a MESS.
Basically, the opposing pitcher has to work for 3 innings and that's it.

This is a sorry ass line-up right now. Hopefully, Church returns to form. Alou? Hello. Is anyone home?


He also said after the game how the ump blew some calls, and his job is to keep his team in the game with a chance to win. WRONG! When his team is going bad his job is to shutout the other team if necessary. Randy Johnson said the same thing while with the Skanks and got roasted for it.

He has good cause to feel those things, but you don't complain out loud about it.

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