Re: Mets will lose first round pick
- From: "Matt" <matttelles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 15 Oct 2005 16:13:48 -0700
Bruce W. Goldstein wrote:
> "Matt" <matttelles@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Bruce W. Goldstein wrote:
> >> "Ed D" <Ejd935@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> > Met-in-PR wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> - Both Piazza and Hernandez had the same numbers this season.
> >> >> - Hernandez played at Petco (extremly pitchers park) while Piazza
> >> >> played
> >> >> at
> >> >> Shea (neutral park)
> >> >
> >> > The ball park stats probably indiacate I am wrong but I just don't
> >> > believe Hernandez would turn into a 20+ HR guy by moving to Shea.
> >> >
> >> >> - Piazza is 37 and Hernandez is 29.
> >> >> - Ramon is better than Piazza defensively
> >> >
> >> > Just from the few times I have seem Hernandez play I haven't seen a
> >> > great defensive catcher. He will throw out more baserunners but he had
> >> > more errors and passballs last year with about the same total chances.
> >> > I have always felt that Piazza is a very underrated defensive catcher.
> >> > His only shortcoming is his throwing arm.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Piazza has a very strong arm. His *mechanics*, throwing to 2B, is what
> >> sucks. All other aspects of his defense are just fine. I'd still sign
> >> Mikey
> >> for one and one.
> >
> > I agree, I'm just curious. Why do you think he has a strong arm? Is it
> > simply that he's throwing the ball poorly to second? I live in
> > Colorado, but watch what Met games I can, and have never been impressed
> > with Mike's throws to second. Otherwise, I've never minded his game,
> > and to be honest, I don't think the Mets really need to worry THAT much
> > about the occasional stolen base.
> >
> > But I did often wonder if it was a weak throwing arm, or something
> > else.
> >
>
> If you don't get your legs coordinated out of the crouch, a few things can
> happen. You can sail throws or under throw to 2B (bouncing the ball, which
> we have seen Mike do a lot). When he under throws, the perception is that he
> has a weak arm. But when we have seen him get coordinated with his legs, we
> have seen some excellent throws. So it's not the arm. The prevailing thought
> for pitchers, and Tom Seaver is an excellent example, is that you throw with
> your legs. The arm aims the ball to the target. Also the "crow hop" that
> infielders do when they throw to first. They are getting their legs
> coordinated, and underneath them, to make the throw. You can try an
> experiment yourself. Try throwing a ball flat footed. Then try throwing, and
> pushing off with your legs. Big difference.
After reading your post, my initial thought was... oh, please, Piazza
has
been a catcher for years, this CAN'T be right. And then I watched some
tapes.
And some more tapes. And you are absolutely right, he doesn't set
himself
well at all.
Wonder if anyone has ever pointed this out to him?
Thanks
Matt
>
> BWG
.
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