Re: Free Agents to target

<<Pretty sure that I'll be wasting my time by looking at some draft
choices
from MLB teams. For sure you won't post any statistical evidence that
supports your point and will try to twist the argument. At the end you
will
response the same way you just did, naming HOF players that are one in
a
billion, to try to make a point.

Of course you won't mention Mike Piazza, Arbert Pujols, Vladimir
Guerrero,
Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, John
Smoltz,
Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Dontrelle Willis, Brad Penny, AJ Burnett,
Bernie
Williams, Mariano Rivera, Jeff Bagwell, Jeff Kent, Roy Oswalt, Andy
Pettitte, Scott Rolen, Edgar Renteria, Jim Edmonds, Rich Harden, Tim
Hudson,
Edgar Martinez, John Olerud, Bobby Abreu, Jim Thome, Johan Santana,
Miguel
Cabrera, who were never first round choices but are either HOF players,
All
Stars or playing regularly at the ML level.>>

How many of these are not eligle for the draft being from a foriegn
country? HoF'er are one in a billion from the 1st round? How full of
it are you? Instead of wasting all this bandwidth below, why don't you
just point to the draft results on the baseball alamac sight and see
for yourself who many stars are pulled from the draft.

Whatever percent of allstars are coming out of the 1st round of the
draft, for sure LESS are coming from the 2nd and 3nd rounds.

BTW - Olerud was drafted TWICE, as was Clemens. There is probably a
story for his low draft selection.

Here, have fun and pluck through it.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/1965draft.shtml

If you want to argue that the draft in baseball is not a guaranteed
thing like the NBA nad the NFL, I'm all with you. If you want to ignor
the impact the draft has on distributing talent, your on your own. The
draft nearly immediately conributed to parity in the Major League's by
preventing the Yankees from plucking every Dimaggio and Mantle that
they wanted just by throwing money at them.

the surest way to build a talent base is draft often, draft high and
scout scout scout.

Ruben
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But I'll give it a try: Lets see some first round draft picks:

Mets:
1992 Preston Wilson
1993 Kirk Presley
1994 Paul Wilson
1995 Ryan Jaronyk
1996 Robert Stratton
1997 Geoff Goetz
1998 Jason Tyner
1999 Neal Musser
2000 Bill Traber
2001 Aaron Heilman
2002 Scott Kazmir
2003 Lastings Milledge

Braves:
1992 Jaime Arnold
1993 Adnre King
1994 Jacob Shumate
1995 Chad Hutchinson
1996 AJ Zapp
1997 Troy Cameron
1998 Matt Belisle
1999 Matt Butler
2000 Adam Wainwright
2001 Macay McBride
2002 Jeff Francoeur
2003 Luis Atilano

A's:
1992 Benji Grigsby
1993 John Wasdin
1994 Ben Grieve
1995 Ariel Prieto
1996 Eric Chavez
1997 Chris Enochs
1998 Mark Mulder
1999 Barry Zito
2000 Freddie Bynum
2001 Bobby Crosby
2002 Nick Swisher
2003 Brad Sullivan

Astros:
1992 Phil Nevin
1993 Billy Wagner
1994 Ramon Castro
1995 Tony McKnight
1996 Mark Johnson
1997 Lance Berkman
1998 Brad Lidge
1999 Micheal Rosamond
2000 Robert Stiehl
2001 Chris Burke
2002 Derick Grigsby
2003 Jason Hirsh

Dodgers:
1992 Ryan Luzinski
1993 Darren Dreifort
1994 Paul Konerko
1995 David Yocum
1996 Damian Rolls
1997 Glenn Davis
1998 Bubba Crosby
1999 Jason Repko
2000 Ben Diggins
2001 Brian Pilkington
2002 James Loney
2003 Chad Billingsly

Rockies:
1992 John Burke
1993 Jamey Wright
1994 Doug Million
1995 Todd Helton
1996 Jake Westbrook
1997 Mark Mangum
1998 Matt Roney
1999 Jason Jennings
2000 Matt Harrington
2001 Jayson Nix
2002 Jeff Francis
2003 Ian Stewart

Your Tampa Bay DRays:
1996 Paul Wilder
1997 Jason Standridge
1998 Josh Pressley
1999 Josh Hamilton
2000 Rocco Baldelli
2001 Dewon Brazelton
2002 BJ Upton
2003 Delmon Young

Expos/Nationals:
1992 BJ Wallace
1993 Chris Schwab
1994 Hiram Bocachica
1995 Michael Barrett
1996 John Patterson
1997 Donnie Bridges
1998 Josh McKinley
1999 Josh Girdley
2000 Justin Wayne
2001 Josh Karp
2002 Clint Evert
2003 Chad Cordero

Marlins:
1992 Charles Johnson
1993 Marc Valdes
1994 Josh Booty
1995 Jaime Jones
1996 Mark Kotsay
1997 Aaron Akin
1998 Chip Ambres
1999 Josh Beckett
2000 Adrian Gonzalez
2001 Garret Berger
2002 Jeremy Jermida
2003 Jeff Allison

Royals:
1992 Michael Tucker
1993 Jeff Granger
1994 Matt Smith
1995 Juan Lebron
1996 Dee Brown
1997 Dan Reichert
1998 Jeff Austin
1999 Kyle Snyder
2000 Mike Stodolka
2001 Colt Griffin
2002 Zack Greinke
2003 Chris Lubanski

Red Soxs:
1992 Tony Sheffield
1993 Trot Nixon
1994 Nomar Garciaparra
1995 Andy Yount
1996 Josh Garret
1997 John Curtice
1998 Adam Everett
1999 Rick Asadoorian
2000 Phil Dumatrait
2001 Kelly Shoppach
2002 Jon Lester
2003 David Murphy

I just took a sample of small market teams, teams that have gotten top
choices in the draft (due to their losing seasons) and some teams from
the
big cities. Do the math Ruben, what percentage of the players above
mention
became All Stars or great players?>>

.

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