Re: And #4 starter is settling in
- From: Wayback1918 <wayback1918@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:29:44 -0800 (PST)
On Feb 17, 6:18 am, Wayback1918 <wayback1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:19 pm, CalC <calcarpent...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 16, 8:49 pm, Larsfan <srgntbi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
in more than one way. - - - Josh Beckett's and Holly Fisher got
married this month, according to the Boston Herald. Unlike many
athletes' wives, though, Fisher isn't a model or an actress. She's a
space-engineering consultant and the two went to high school together
in Texas. Beckett is my choice for "comeback of the year". By the AS
break it will be him and Lester. Daisuke and Buchholtz will be a
little behind with almost equal success. Lackaye and Wakefield will
have about the same number of wins.
Every pitch Bucholtz has is better than comparable Beckett pitch...not
sure how you purport your outcome. It's not impossible but Bucholtz
throws harder has a nastier off speed stuff and better control....
that spells better success most times. That BTW isn't a Beckett
indictment as he may do well, I just think it's clear CB has the much
fuller toolbox than 95% of pitchers at this point.
Even during Beckett's miserable 2010 season he had a better curveball
than Buchholz.
Beckett still has the better control too. Unfortunately for him
getting the ball over the plate more often just meant it got hit
harder more often.
However the Venerable Poster's original premise has Beckett returning
to 2007-2009 form. If that's the case then then is little to choose
between the two pitcher's fastballs either.
Buchholz did have great 2010. Another 3 starts and he was probably
the Cy Young winner....but it is just one year. Beckett has had
several years similar to Clay's 2010
Each of the Red Sox 5 starters has the ability to win 17
games.....since they all have at one time during the last 4 seasons.
It is also very unlikely that they will all do so. It is more than
probable that the two starters who were the best on the 2010 team
won't be the same two starters on the 2011 team-
Actually the same pair of starters leading the team in wins for
consecutive years has only happened once in the last 21 years.
Considering that most of these teams had either Clemens or Martinez on
them it is a pretty rare feat
Year Wins Pitcher
1990 17 Mike Boddicker
1990 21 Roger Clemens
1991 12 Joe Hesketh
1991 18 Roger Clemens
1992 13 Frank Viola
1992 18 Roger Clemens
1993 11 Roger Clemens
1993 15 Danny Darwin
1995 15 Erik Hanson
1995 16 Tim Wakefield
1996 12 Tom Gordon
1996 14 Tim Wakefield
1997 12 Tim Wakefield
1997 13 Aaron Sele
1998 17 Tim Wakefield
1998 19 Pedro Martinez
1999 10 Bret Saberhagen
1999 23 Pedro Martinez
2000 10 Ramon Martinez
2000 18 Pedro Martinez
2001 10 Frank Castillo
2001 13 Hideo Nomo
2002 20 Pedro Martinez
2002 21 Derek Lowe
2003 14 Pedro Martinez
2003 17 Derek Lowe
2004 16 Pedro Martinez
2004 21 Curt Schilling
2005 15 David Wells
2005 16 Tim Wakefield
2006 15 Curt Schilling
2006 16 Josh Beckett
2007 17 Tim Wakefield
2007 20 Josh Beckett
2008 16 Jon Lester
2008 18 Daisuke Matsuzaka
2009 15 Jon Lester
2009 17 Josh Beckett
2010 17 Clay Buchholz
2010 19 Jon Lester
Note: Wakefield has been either 1st or 2nd in Wins 6 times...same as
Pedro. Clemens did it 8 times during his career.
Also Clemens and Hurst did lead the team in wins in 1987 and 1988
.
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