Re: How Repubs ran the country.




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On Dec 29, 7:52 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Dec 29, 7:33 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





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On Dec 28, 9:49 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Six years ago, "it was standard practice NOT to pay for things," said
Sen.
Orrin Hatch,
R-Utah.http://www.docudharma.com/diary/18187/orrin-hatch-six-years-ago-it-wa...

[...] when Republicans controlled the House, Senate and White House in
2003, they overcame Democratic opposition to add a deficit-financed
prescription drug benefit to Medicare. The program will cost a
half-trillion
dollars over 10 years, or more by some estimates.
With no new taxes or spending offsets accompanying the Medicare drug
program, the cost has been added to the federal debt.
[...]
Six years ago, "it was standard practice not to pay for things," said
Sen.
Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.

Six years ago, "it was standard practice not to pay for things," said
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. "We were concerned about it, because it
certainly
added to the deficit, no question." His 2003 vote has been vindicated,
Hatch
said, because the prescription drug benefit "has done a lot of good."

Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, said those who see hypocrisy "can
legitimately raise that issue." But he defended his positions in 2003
and
now, saying the economy is in worse shape and Americans are more
anxious.

Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, said simply: "Dredging up history is not
the way to move forward."

Seriously? Is that how we're going to play this game?

Snowe's quote is hard to take seriously -- as if her own record isn't
relevant right now -- but it's Hatch's quote that's especially
ridiculous.
For Republicans, supporting huge new programs without figuring out how
to
pay for them "was standard practice." Six years later, this is
justifiable,
just so long as the huge new programs do "a lot of good."

Just so we're clear, according to the rules, Republicans don't have to
pay
for their programs, and Democrats do. Republicans can build up massive
debts, and Democrats can't.

Let's cut the nonsense. Republicans supported Medicare Part D (Karl
Rove
saw it as a way of creating a "permanent" GOP majority). It was the
biggest
expansion of government into the health care industry since Medicare.
By
any
reasonable measure, it was a huge giveaway to private industries, and
came
with a price tag of at least $1 trillion -- far more than this year's
Democratic health care reform plan. It was "complicated as hell," and
left
a
huge doughnut hole that screwed over millions of seniors. It included
end-of-life counseling, which Republicans now consider "death panels."
The
Republican bill, which passed under almost comically corrupt
circumstances,
was financed entirely -- literally, 100% -- through deficit spending,
leaving future generations to pick up the tab.

And what do these exact same Republican lawmakers say now? That the
Democratic reform plan increases government's role in health care
(check),
costs too much (check), is too complicated (check), and passed under
suspicious circumstances (check). Oh, and don't "dredge up history"
that
GOP
finds embarrassing.

Yeah, those tuff ole days...

When the DOW was 14000...and unemployment was 4.7%

How did we ever survive?
;>P

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those numbers were under Clinton. as soon as the chimpler got in things
went
down.

The DOW peaked under Bush.

except unemployment, that went up.- Hide quoted text -

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You're forgetting that Clinton had a mostly Republican Congress right?


So they should take some of the credit for Bubba's >surplus right?

Trying to educate Ray O'Bama won't work. You're confusing him with fact and
logic.


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