Re: The Ramirez situation

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:35:12 -0500, "Don Simard"
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"McDuck" <wallyDELETEMEMcDuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We shall see. But I do not think Manny would have gotten the $20 + $20
million from the RS (see above). The LA offer indicates he will cover
the $40 million. But it was not clear in July that Manny would get
that money. LA made the offer b/c Manny had one of the truly great
playoff runs in memory, greatly enhancing his already high value. And,
as Pearly noted, he was a huge crowd draw, paying way more than his
way --- he covered the $1 million adjustment payment in the first 3
home games at Dodger stadium. In July, people on this ng were talking
about Manny's greatness mostly in the past tense --- with a
generalunderstanding that he was in decline. No "decline" in LA.

I seem to recall that Manny required the team options in his contract to be
nullified in order to approve the trade to the Dodgers.... so it seems quite
calculated he was trying to become an unrestricted FA this season so it was
all about money. What rational reason would the Sox have to alienate Manny -
they held all the cards and could have chosen to not exercise the team
option - and Manny is right where he is now - a Free Agent. It is not
always about performance numbers

Manny did insist on the waiver of the options to agree to a trade. Why
not? The RS wanted desperately to trade him and he was in a position
to block a trade. No one would think that the options were of any
benefit to Manny. Manny also collected $1 million from LA for the
trade under the terms of his agreement, or so I remember (the story
was that LA made it back and more in the first series through higher
attendance).
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