Re: Lefty off the bench
- From: bismo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:11:21 -0800 (PST)
On Jan 31, 9:45 am, Wayback1918 <wayback1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 30, 9:34 pm, Gnork <gn...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 30, 4:46 pm, Dave Bismo <bi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:36:54 GMT, "Srgnt Billko" <f...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
How many lefties do we need coming off the bench - especially since most of
our righties hit righties pretty well ?
You can't play Crisp, Ellsbury and Drew all at once so there is a good
chance that one of them would be a lefty off the bench.
Great point. I think they want one lefty who can play 1B, just
because Youk and Lowell are righties. This way, on the rare times
they rest a corner infielder, they can do it against a righty and gain
a platoon advantage. But for the outfield, they'd surely prefer a
righty, since they can do the same thing with Drew/Ellsbury (give them
their rest days against LHP and play the righty backup). (That's
assuming that they trade Coco Crisp; otherwise, he can be a lefty or a
righty off the bench.)
Not if they want one who can actually hit. On a good team Crisp is
best suited as a 5th outfielder. That's a guy who can pinch run, come
in for defense at times, finish up blowouts, and once in a while start
a game. He gets maybe 150 plate appearances a year. Coco will make
about 5 mil this year. Instead of the crazy pipe dreams of a few
thinking they could get another team's best prospect(s) for Coco, they
should just hope they can get another team to take on his full salary
in exchange for some minor league non-entity. Better yet would be to
trade him along with paying a nice chunk of his salary for a good back-
up catcher. He OPS+ average for his 2 years with Boston is about 80.
To get anything serviceable for him without paying part of his salary
they would need to find a stupid GM who wants a CF or take back
someone else's overpaid guy in return.- Hide quoted text -
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I'm not sure where the 'official' job description for the fourth and
fifth outfielders comes from.....
As to who might like Crisp?
I'd say Baltimore, Minnesota, Oakland, Atlanta and Cincinnati are
(or should be) looking to up grade CF.
I would think Colorado, San Diego, Pittsburg, Chicago Cubs,
Washington and possibly Philadephia would all be wise to have a viable
alternative to the CF ESPN lists as #1 on their depth chart as well.
But why be in hurry to dump him if you don't have anything better?
Nobody other than Gnork has been more critical of Crisp's hitting, but
I'd be perfectly content to have Coco as the 4th outfielder. With all
due respect to Gnork, there aren't exactly a ton of great 4th OF
candidates out there. Now, it's totally true that $4.8 million is a
lot to pay someone who may stand to only get 200-250 AB. And Crisp's
agent has made a lot of noise about the player not wanting to be a
backup. So I can totally understand why they might want to trade him,
and I'd have no problem with that either.
Because of his defense, relatively cheap salary, and the hope against
hope that he'll figure out how to hit again, I agree that Crisp could
be a starting CF for several teams (most of which you've listed). I
think Cincy will stick with the rookie Jay Bruce, who's said to be a
tremendous prospect, and Minnesota may very well go-go with Gomez.
But if Boston is determined to trade Crisp, I think there will be some
takers. (I do agree with Gnork that they're not going to get great
prospects for Coco, but I think they can get something useful.)
-Bismo.
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