Re: Interesting piece on the Santana deal

On Jan 30, 10:49 am, Wayback1918 <wayback1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:41 pm, "Jim Tiberio" <jimtibe...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





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From:  http://www.northjersey.com/sports/mets/14896371.html ;(written
by Bob Kapisch)

"This was late Monday night, about 12 hours before the Mets would
pounce upon their most dramatic trade in recent history. Twins'
general manager Bill Smith, in a panic to move Johan Santana, called
the Yankees and admitted surrender: Phil Hughes was no longer a
prerequisite, he said. Instead, the Twins asked for Ian Kennedy, Melky
Cabrera and a top prospect. Would the Yankees still be interested,
Smith wondered?

The Yankees considered the idea, but only briefly and not seriously.
Their passion for Santana started waning as far back as December, when
Andy Pettitte announced he was returning to the Bronx. The Yankees'
internal straw vote was unanimous: The Twins had waited too long. On
Tuesday Yankees' GM Brian Cashman told Smith he was passing on the
deal, prompting the Twins to call the Red Sox. Equally devastating
news awaited. Both Jacoby Ellsbury and Jon Lester were unavailable.

The Red Sox, in lock step with the Yankees, had essentially backed
out, too."

Very interesting stuff.  I wonder what the Sox could have gotten
Santana for when Smith called.  What if they said, ok, we'll do
Lester, Lowrie, and a C-level prospect for Santana?  Or Lester/Crisp?
Would that have been enough, given what they ended up getting from the
Mets?

We'll probably never know, but I find it interesting that the Red Sox
really backed out of this deal when the Twins came calling in full-
fledged panic mode.

John

I wonder if Cashman and Epstein sat down and had a serious talk about this
and decided to trust that neither team really wanted him for no other reason
that to block the other.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If, as the articles says "....the Twins asked for Ian Kennedy, Melky
Cabrera and a top prospect." I can't see how the Yankees turned that
down.

With a new stadium next year it could not have been money


Bill Smith got more back for Garza than he did for Santana.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2008/01/30/2008-01-30_mets_strike_deal_with_twins_extension_aw.html?page=1


According to sources familiar with the entire negotiations, after the
Red Sox removed Lester, the Twins called the Yankees back and proposed
a scenario in which Hughes would not have to be part of the deal.
Instead, they asked for Chien-Ming Wang and Ian Kennedy. The Yankees
flatly rejected that, leaving the Mets as the Twins' only
alternative.


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